Tie breakers

[Star Ocean]

There is a good chance there are teams that ends up with the same amount of points right now.

Tie breaking formula


The tie-breaking system for two teams with the same number of points in a standing will be the game between the two teams, the winner of the game taking precedence.
Due to the fact that the three-point system does not allow a game to end in a tie, then the following tie breaking procedure is applicable when three or more teams are tied in points in a Championship standing.
Should three or more teams be tied on points, then a tie breaking formula will be applied as follows, creating a sub-group amongst the tied teams. This process will continue until only two or none of the teams remain tied. In the case of two tied teams remaining, the game between the two would then be the determining tie-breaker as the game could not end as a tie. In the case of none of the teams being tied, the criteria specified in the respective step applies.


Step 1: Taking into consideration the games between each of the tied teams, a sub-group is created applying the points awarded in the direct games amongst the tied teams from which the teams are then ranked accordingly.
Step 2: Should three or more teams still remain tied in points then the better goal difference in the direct games amongst the tied teams will be decisive.
Step 3: Should three or more teams still remain tied in points and goal difference then the highest number of goals scored by these teams in their direct games will be decisive
Step 4: Should three or more teams still remain tied in points, goal difference and goals scored then the results between each of the three teams and the closest best-ranked team outside the sub-group will be applied. In this case the tied team with the best result (1. points, 2. goal difference, 3. more goals scored) against the closest best ranked-team will take precedence
Step 5: Should the teams still remain tied, then the results between each of the three teams and the next highest best-ranked team outside the sub-group will be applied.

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[Canada4Gold]

Huh? Canada is the favorite against Germany and Czechs. If they won both they have 9, USA and Russia can max out at 9 but play each other so they both cannot get there so the odds of all ending with the same number of points are pretty slim. Even if Canada lost to Czechs or Germany the winner of Russia/USA would have to then lose to Czechs or Germany. I that very unlikely scenario all teams could have 6 points.

edit: OP edited, initially said Russia/Canada/USA likely tied

 

[Star Ocean]

Huh? Canada is the favorite against Germany and Czechs. If they won both they have 9, USA and Russia can max out at 9 but play each other so they both cannot get there so the odds of all ending with the same number of points are pretty slim. Even if Canada lost to Czechs or Germany the winner of Russia/USA would have to then lose to Czechs or Germany. I that very unlikely scenario all teams could have 6 points.

Canada loses to czechs
Canada wins over germany
Usa wins over russia
Usa wins over czechs
Russia wins over germany

That gives:

Usa
Russia
Canada
Czech

All tied at 6p.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Canada loses to czechs
Canada wins over germany
Usa wins over russia
Usa wins over czechs
Russia wins over germany

That gives:

Usa
Russia
Canada
Czech

All tied at 6p.

That would give the USA 9 points

 

[Star Ocean]

That would give the USA 9 points

I forgot their win vs germany.

So that makes:

1. USA 9
2. Canada 6
2. Russia 6
2. Czech rep 6

 

[Canada4Gold]

I forgot their win vs germany.

So that makes:

1. USA 9
2. Canada 6
2. Russia 6
2. Czech rep 6

Yeah there are ties likely, USA/Russia/Canada isn't a likely one. The likely result is

Canada 9
Russia/USA 9
Russia/USA 6
Germany 3
Czechs 3

If Russia is at 9 they're 1st Canada 2nd due h2h, if USA wins they're 2nd Canada is 1st due h2h. Germany is 4th, Czech 5th due h2h.

However if Russia loses to USA tonight, then they go into New Years Eve with the Germany game is a must win, if they lost both then USA, Germany would be at 6+, Canada presumably beats at least 1 of Germany/Czechs in the meatime so the only other team at 3 is Czechs(if they lose both) who would have the h2h.

Obviously Russia losing to Germany isn't likely. But given it's their final group game on New Years Eve it becomes a scenario that exists as the last games are happening. Tonight's game has to happen first and probably changes everything again.

 

[Czechboy]

Step 5: Should the teams still remain tied, then the results between each of the three teams and the next highest best-ranked team outside the sub-group will be applied.

This is Step 5... a tiebreaker has never gone this far. However, I'd like to point out, that beating the ever living shit out of the last place team in your group (eg. Denmark) is not being done because of goal differential! There is no Step 6 that says overall goal differential from all the games will be used.

Using this year... Sweden could demolish Kazakhstan 25-0 and it won't have any impact on their standings past the 1-0 goal that got them the W. I use Sweden cause they're going to win that group not because I think they would do this.

Also using this year... there is a pool of death where everyone is tied for the first time in history. If a team has a chance to run a score up they absolutely should!

 

[Czechboy]

Huh? Canada is the favorite against Germany and Czechs. If they won both they have 9, USA and Russia can max out at 9 but play each other so they both cannot get there so the odds of all ending with the same number of points are pretty slim. Even if Canada lost to Czechs or Germany the winner of Russia/USA would have to then lose to Czechs or Germany. I that very unlikely scenario all teams could have 6 points.

edit: OP edited, initially said Russia/Canada/USA likely tied

I didn't think this was a post about Canada's chances of winning the pool? I thought it was about tiebreakers for all the teams? There are 5 nations tied right now and they all need wins to advance.

Having said that. Canada has a decent chance at winning pool if US beats Russia today.

 

[Canada4Gold]

I didn't think this was a post about Canada's chances of winning the pool? I thought it was about tiebreakers for all the teams? There are 5 nations tied right now and they all need wins to advance.

Having said that. Canada has a decent chance at winning pool if US beats Russia today.

Read the bottom of my edit which you quoted. The OP edited his post, it initially said "There's a good chance Canada, USA and Russia end up tied"

 

[Czechboy]

Read the bottom of my edit which you quoted. The OP edited his post, it initially said "There's a good chance Canada, USA and Russia end up tied"

LOL... I am a dumbass. My apologies.