Player Discussion Thomas Vanek

[MN_Gopher]

3 goals 3 assists, 4 of those on the PP and a +2.

Staal plus dead cap space = 1 goal <50% FO -2

Granlund moved to wing to open his game up = 1 assist


Its way to early to tell anything. Vanek is still looming next year and so far this year the return is less than just keeping him and having him totally off next year.

Would have been nice to see what he could have done with a real coach.

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[57special]

I wasn't in favor of buying out Vanek- and I'm not a fan- but so far, I'll take Stewart and Staal over Vanek anyday.

 

[tomgilbertfan]

Staal is playing great, and is a center. Even if Vanek scores near 30 goals I'd rather have Staal right now, he can actually play on both ends of the ice.

 

[Goose312]

Buying out Vanek was a dollars thing, and a culture thing. Bruce wanted guys who can play all 3 zones. Zucker has 4 breakaways this season (though 0 goals) and Bruce still specifically calls out his defensive responsibility. Could you imagine how much he would freak out with Vanek on the roster? If his cap hit was the 2.6 he's getting from Detroit maybe that's another discussion, but for what we were paying him he didn't fit in.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Not surprised he's finding success elsewhere.

 

[P10p]

Pretty sure Vanek had a pretty quick start here as well.

 

[Digitalbooya]

I'd easily rather have Staal. Vanek was always streaky, wait till he goes cold: useless, useless, useless!

 

[Spurgeon46]

As frustrating as it was to watch him at times the past couple years; happy to see he's having some early success in DET

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Pretty sure Vanek had a pretty quick start here as well.

His first year here, he scored his 3rd goal on December 9th.

 

[Minnesota]

He'll cool down eventually. Vanek's a streaky player.

Still think he'll score 40-50 points. Wild needed a center, so they bought out Vanek to bring in Staal. We'll see if it was the correct decision.

 

[P10p]

His first year here, he scored his 3rd goal on December 9th.

His second year, he was leading the team through the first 10

edit, in pts that is.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

His second year, he was leading the team through the first 10

edit, in pts that is.

Ah, touché.

 

[P10p]

Ah, touché.

forgot how much of a monster parise was to start last year. 6g in 4gp wow. Also that awesome hattrick he had against the Avs!

 

[BusQuets]

He can score ppg the whole season and i wouldn't care. I'm 95% sure that he wouldn't have do it in here and if he's your top scorer at this point your team isn't going anywhere.

Also lol at Yeo not being a "real" coach. Brutal just brutal..

 

[MN_Gopher]

I wasn't in favor of buying out Vanek- and I'm not a fan- but so far, I'll take Stewart and Staal over Vanek anyday.

It looks good this year.

Next year we could have much more than those two.

You need to sign Haula, Granny, Reilly, Folin, Olofsson and Nino next year with 2.5 of that tied up in having Vanek not playing with us this year alone. Add in Keumper or Stalock as a back up? We will have roughly 12 mil open for those guys. Rather it be closer to 15 mil free.

Now you are looking at losing Scandella/Dumba to keep young talent that may or might not.

Might have to buy out Pomms to eek out some more cash but put your self back into the same problem you were just faced with.

Or hope the aging vets age like wine and not milk.

 

[Wabit]

It looks good this year.

Next year we could have much more than those two.

You need to sign Haula, Granny, Reilly, Folin, Olofsson and Nino next year with 2.5 of that tied up in having Vanek not playing with us this year alone. Add in Keumper or Stalock as a back up? We will have roughly 12 mil open for those guys. Rather it be closer to 15 mil free.

Now you are looking at losing Scandella/Dumba to keep young talent that may or might not.

Might have to buy out Pomms to eek out some more cash but put your self back into the same problem you were just faced with.

Or hope the aging vets age like wine and not milk.

I think with $12m we can sign all of those + backup goalie, expect Granlund.

Pommer buyout next year only opens up $1.25m, would be 4 years of dead money, and you'd have to replace him in the roster. It'll probably end up costing more cap than keeping him. His last season makes more sense for a buyout.

 

[NotYou]

Cool, I still like vanek. I think Yeo was fine for the most part, but his use of vanek pretty poor. He needs to be allowed to play his game to be effective. He'll still have problems because he's a flawed player. When he was made to play yeos way those warts didn't really go away but it hurt his ability to produce. We shouldn't have signed him if we weren't ready to let him play his maddening but entertaining style to the fullest.

 

[BusQuets]

Cool, I still like vanek. I think Yeo was fine for the most part, but his use of vanek pretty poor. He needs to be allowed to play his game to be effective. He'll still have problems because he's a flawed player. When he was made to play yeos way those warts didn't really go away but it hurt his ability to produce. We shouldn't have signed him if we weren't ready to let him play his maddening but entertaining style to the fullest.

Kane is entertaining. Vanek is not entertaining.

 

[NotYou]

Kane is entertaining. Vanek is not entertaining.

 

[NHL1674]

Uh, yeah, it's week 1. Vanek had question marks before we even signed him. It's great that he's doing well, but that is one very small sample size.

 

[Al Lagoon]

Well, he is playing for his life right now - I would be surprised if the buyout didn't give some extra motivation to show up ready to play.