Thomas 2010/11 vs. Hasek 1998/99 (Regular Season + Playoffs)

[Trap Jesus]

Dominik Hasek

Regular Season

64 GP (64 GS): 30-18-14 TIE, 1.87 GAA, .937 sv. % (1,758/1,877), 9 SO
NHL League Average: 2.56 GAA, .908 sv. %

Playoffs

19 GP (19 GS): 13-6, 1.77 GAA, .939 sv. %, (551/587), 2 SO

Awards

Vezina, 1st All-Star Team, 3rd in Hart voting


Tim Thomas

Regular Season

57 GP (55 GS): 35-11-9 OTL, 2.00 GAA, .938 sv. % (1,699/1,811), 9 SO
NHL League Average: 2.61 GAA, .913 sv. %

Playoffs

25 GP (25 GS): 16-9, 1.98 GAA, .940 sv. % (798/849), 4 SO

Awards

Vezina, 1st All-Star Team, 5th in Hart voting, Conn Smythe

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[Midnight Judges]

Good poll. Good data. Thanks for that OP.

Hate it when guys create polls with no data.

 

[Trap Jesus]

I think it's an interesting comparison for a number of reasons. First off because while games played is usually a huge determining factor for goalies, regular season + playoffs balances out to about the same (low 80s for games played). Hasek has the leg up for save percentage and GAA vs. his peers, but I think it's difficult to argue that Thomas doesn't have him for a better playoffs, especially considering what he did in the Cup Final. Both up their game ever so slightly from regular season to playoffs regardless though.

 

[Orange Dragon]

Even strenght/power play splits.

	EV SA	EV GA	EV SVS	EV SV%	PP SA	PP GA	PP SVS	PP SV%
Hašek	1364	74	1290	.946	431	38	393	.912
Thomas	1486	79	1407	.947	271	30	241	.889

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[bobholly39]

Hasek

 

[Regal]

I don't really see an argument for Thomas to be honest other than a better cup final, but he almost cost the Conference final

 

[Trap Jesus]

I don't really see an argument for Thomas to be honest other than a better cup final, but he almost cost the Conference final

He stepped up when it mattered against Tampa, responding excellently after every bad game. Look at wins 2-4 of that series. Wins 10-16 that run he had a .984 save % and allowed as many goals as he had shutouts during that run (4).

 

[JackSlater]

Hasek very easily.

 

[roflstomper]

Hasek regular season in closely but clearly better. Thomas postseason is significantly better. Went Thomas.

 

[Claypool]

Thomas played on a much better team.

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

I really love that 2011 Boston run for reasons.

Hasek on Boston's 2011 squad doesn't lose either but I still voted Thomas. Sorry for being that guy.

 

[Ivo]

Thomas won the cup, but he had a much better team in front of him. Hard not to pick Hasek at his peak.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Came to say "what about 2012 Quick" before realizing he was a mere mortal at nearly a full hundredth below those guys in the regular season, good grief! Amazing seasons.

That's a tough one. I'm leaning towards Thomas

 

[tony d]

Good poll, I went with Hasek.

 

[Dr Pepper]

The way I remember it, Thomas had a pretty solid team in front of him - even if they started slow against the Canucks.

Bergeron, Lucic, Krejci, Marchand, Chara, Horton, Recchi, hell, even a (very) green Tyler Seguin.

Dominik Hasek WAS the Buffalo Sabres.

Their playoff leading scorers that year were Alexei Zhitnik and Jason Woolley. Two defencemen.

 

[valet]

Hasek carried the team, while Thomas, although a critical reason for his teams success, did not have the same impact

I go with hasek

 

[Hockey Outsider]

Even strenght/power play splits.

	EV SA	EV GA	EV SVS	EV SV%	PP SA	PP GA	PP SVS	PP SV%
Hašek	1364	74	1290	.946	431	38	393	.912
Thomas	1486	79	1407	.947	271	30	241	.889

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

This table speaks volumes. They were virtually even in ES save percentage but Hasek was much better on the PK. The reason Thomas's save percentage is higher overall is he faced much fewer shots on the PK (which are more dangerous - only 15%, compared to 24% for Hasek). It's not Hasek's fault that the Bruins were much more disciplined than his Sabres.

Not that save percentage is a perfect metric - but he was higher above the league average than Thomas, while facing a less favourable mix of ES vs PK shots against. That's a pretty strong argument in his favour.

 

[Apotheosis]

Hasek. Better compared to league average in the regular season and he put up virtually the same numbers on a far worse team for relative comparison. Thomas' season is still the best season in the last decade and he was basically the closest thing we saw to Hasek in that season no doubt.