THN: The Great Goalie Debate: Ranking the NHL’s 31 starting netminders in 2018-19

[GodEmperor]

Better list
1.Bob
2.Vassy
3.Helle
4.Holtby
5.Quick
6.Murray
7.Gibson
8.Fleury
9.Price
10.Andersen
11.Rask
12.Crawford
13.Rinne
14.Dubnyk
15.Jones
16.Bishop
17.Raanta
18.Smith
19.Varlamov
20.Lundqvist
21-30.Who cares?

 

[bionic]

Did THN just get whatever summer intern who's never watched hockey to write these lists one day?

He must have been From Winnipeg to boot.

 

[kingsholygrail]

Ignoring contracts, I’m fairly confident that if you gave every GM the opportunity to pick any goalie for their team next season, Price’s name would come up for most of them.

So in fantasyland where these guys all play for free only most would want Price?

 

[Rabid Ranger]

This might be the worst ranking I have ever seen.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Okay Talbot had a below average year, but 27th? Below that nutcase Lehner? Oooookay.

 

[Yackiberg8]

Bored so took a stab at a list...

1	S. Bobrovsky
2	B.Holtby
3	C. Hellebuyck
4	P. Rinne
5	A. Vasilevskiy
6	M. Fleury
7	J. Gibson
8	T.Rask
9	D. Dubnyk
10	J. Quick
11	C. Crawford
12	C. Price
13	M. Murray
14	F. Andersen
15	A. Raanta
16	R. Luongo
17	M. Jones
18	C. Talbot
19	C. Hutton
20	B. Bishop
21	H. Lundqvist
22	J. Allen
23	M. Smith
24	C. Schneider
25	R. Lehner
26	J. Howard
27	J. Markstrom
28	C. Anderson
29	S. Varlamov
30	B. Elliott
31	S. Darling

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[Wayne Primeau]

Mike Smith was an all-star last season and the Flames' MVP. He certainly belongs in the Top 15 at the very least.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

Talbot, Lundqvist, and Gibson are way too low. Awful list.

 

[S E P H]

Lol Carey price has one bad year and he’s worse then rantaa, Andersen etc... he’s still a top 3 goalie in the nhl

I think THN were quite consistent in listing goalers with injury problems lower than they should've had. It wasn't just Price, Gibson and Varlamov are both top 13-ish goalers and just have a long injury history.

 

[Sol]

They really need to stop making lists. They're f***ing awful.

 

[Regal]

Price's career stats are very similar to Andersen's and he was just heavily outperformed by him last year. He should be behind him. Price is certainly not a top 3 goalie after a season like that. He has to earn it again

Career stats are horrible ways to judge goalies. Price's numbers were way better for 4 years prior to last year.

 

[jw2]

I hope the guys in my fantasy league use this list

 

[Sol]

Hellebuyck was garbage in the playoffs.

 

[Regal]

I don't understand why Vasilevskiy keeps being put so high on these lists. He's a good goalie but one hot half season doesn't make you a top 3 goalie, especially when you have a weak second half

 

[Frank Drebin]

Lol Carey price has one bad year and he’s worse then rantaa, Andersen etc... he’s still a top 3 goalie in the nhl

Shouldnt be rated. He was worse than a backup this past season so the average of the past 2 seasons will be pretty low.

He's certainly proven that he can be excellent as well as terrible

 

[FerklundCGY]

Gibson is criminally underrated and I really have no idea why.

Agreed. I hate the Ducks almost as much as I hate the Oilers but even I have to admit how amazing Gibson is. He'd be in my top 5 easily

 

[Frank Drebin]

So in fantasyland where these guys all play for free only most would want Price?

Ignoring contracts means rating the players on skill/ability alone.

"Who is the best goalie" doesnt mean "which goalie brings the most value under the current cap structure"

 

[Aurinko]

If you forget the previous season performance and only look at the 2017-2018 (season+ playoffs), here's the list of goalie performance over the expected:

Sv% is the actual save%
xSV% is the expected save %, when you consider the shot location and quality
dSv% is their difference: it shows how much above the expected the goalie performed

dSv% = 0% is how an average 2017-18 NHL goalie would have done when facing the same shot quality (meaning save% would have been same as expected%).

 

[major major]

I don't understand why Vasilevskiy keeps being put so high on these lists. He's a good goalie but one hot half season doesn't make you a top 3 goalie, especially when you have a weak second half

Yeah it's weird. I don't get it. He's not better than Gibson, for one.

 

[Bedards Dad]

If you forget the previous season performance and only look at the 2017-2018 (season+ playoffs), here's the list of goalie performance over the expected:

Sv% is the actual save%
xSV% is the expected save %, when you consider the shot location and quality
dSv% is their difference: it shows how much above the expected the goalie performed

dSv% = 0% is how an average 2017-18 NHL goalie would have done when facing the same shot quality (meaning save% would have been same as expected%).

Was Price so bad he didn't even make the list?

 

[tony d]

Lundqvist at 25 is yikes for sure. Again, I appreciate anyone who puts the time into making a list like this but the rankings on that list are very questionable.

 

[Aurinko]

Was Price so bad he didn't even make the list?

Was still working on the bottom part

Here:

 

[Rebels57]

Elliott is too high. Bottom 5 starter. Neuvirth is better but made of paper maché.

When does Bob get dinged for his awful playoff performances?

 

[A1LeafNation]

Lol Carey price has one bad year and he’s worse then rantaa, Andersen etc... he’s still a top 3 goalie in the nhl

Andersen and Price are career .918 SV% goalies

 

[CodeE]

First the top 50 player list, now this atrocity.

THN is either in the business of hot takes and clickbait or needs to hire someone who watches hockey games.