THN: The Great Goalie Debate: Ranking the NHL’s 31 starting netminders in 2018-19

[AustonsNostrils]

1. Sergei Bobrovsky, Columbus Blue Jackets

2. Andrei Vasilevskiy, Tampa Bay Lightning

3. Connor Hellebuyck, Winnipeg Jets

4. Braden Holtby, Washington Capitals

5. Tuukka Rask, Boston Bruins

6. Marc-Andre Fleury, Vegas Golden Knights

7. Devan Dubnyk, Minnesota Wild

8. Antti Raanta, Arizona Coyotes

9. Jonathan Quick, Los Angeles Kings

10. Frederik Andersen, Toronto Maple Leafs

11. Carey Price, Montreal Canadiens

12. Pekka Rinne, Nashville Predators

13. John Gibson, Anaheim Ducks

14. Mike Smith, Calgary Flames

15. Matt Murray, Pittsburgh Penguins

16. Roberto Luongo, Florida Panthers

17. Ben Bishop, Dallas Stars

18. Martin Jones, San Jose Sharks

19. Semyon Varlamov, Colorado Avalanche

20. Jake Allen, St. Louis Blues

21. Brian Elliott, Philadelphia Flyers.

22. Jacob Markstrom, Vancouver Canucks

23. Corey Crawford, Chicago Blackhawks

24. Cory Schneider, New Jersey Devils

25. Henrik Lundqvist, New York Rangers

26. Robin Lehner, New York Islanders

27. Cam Talbot, Edmonton Oilers

28. Jimmy Howard, Detroit Red Wings

29. Carter Hutton, Buffalo Sabres

30. Craig Anderson, Ottawa Senators

31. Scott Darling, Carolina Hurricanes

The Great Goalie Debate: Ranking the NHL's 31 starting netminders in 2018-19

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[hersky77]

Lol Carey price has one bad year and he’s worse then rantaa, Andersen etc... he’s still a top 3 goalie in the nhl

 

[Vipers31]

3. Connor Hellebuyck, Winnipeg Jets: The Jets-Bolts showdown in the 2019 Stanley Cup final is gonna be something to see.

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10. Frederik Andersen, Toronto Maple Leafs: A little streaky and prone to giving up a soft goal now and again, but he’s established himself as a bona fide No. 1 on a true-blue contender.

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13. John Gibson, Anaheim Ducks: He sits third among NHL goalies in save percentage (.925) since taking over as the Ducks’ full-time starter a couple years ago.

Not really a "great" debate with arguments like that.


EDIT: To be fair, these are just random examples, could cite most of the guys between 3 and 13 to make the point.

 

[Romang67]

Gibson is criminally underrated and I really have no idea why.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Lol Carey price has one bad year and he’s worse then rantaa, Andersen etc... he’s still a top 3 goalie in the nhl

Price's career stats are very similar to Andersen's and he was just heavily outperformed by him last year. He should be behind him. Price is certainly not a top 3 goalie after a season like that. He has to earn it again

 

[ottomaddox]

Wow Rask is rated pretty high.

 

[MardyBum]

Gibson is criminally underrated and I really have no idea why.

Probably some combo of the Ducks getting stomped in the playoffs and a lot of hockey writers not knowing or caring about analytics or heat maps for shots.

Too low in Vezina voting and too low in a lot of these offseason rankings.

 

[Roomtemperature]

Just looking at the list I can see any of the top 25 having a year that "carries" their team to overachieve in the regular season. ITs like running back in the NFL. The elites aren't that much ahead of the middle and the lower end of the middle can get the job done.

 

[ottomaddox]

What happened to Henrik Lundqvist?

 

[The Nuge]

I’m not sure you could make a list worse than that if your goal was simply to troll people. That’s a special kind of bad

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

It's a crap list in and of itself but especially so because the author seemingly has no real criteria but his gut. Like, you can't even criticize him, because his reasoning is prone to large swings.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Probably some combo of the Ducks getting stomped in the playoffs and a lot of hockey writers not knowing or caring about analytics or heat maps for shots.

Too low in Vezina voting and too low in a lot of these offseason rankings.

He should be right around where Vasil/Helle are give or take depending on what you value in your voting. I mean they coulda just used the vezina voting and threw him in that 5-8 range
I think it has to do with him playing in Anaheim tbh.
Getzlaf not in the top 50 player list, 19th on the centers list
Lindholm not in the top 20 dmen list
Gibson 13th in goalie list.

 

[major major]

I like a lot of the rankings here. Except,

Gibson is criminally underrated and I really have no idea why.

Yeah Gibson should be much higher. Why do people generally have him in a lower tier than Vasilevskiy? I'd take Gibson over Vasilevskiy. He has better raw sv% and once you incorporate the shot difficulty, the gap gets even bigger.

 

[Nick Hansen]

21. Brian Elliott, Philadelphia Flyers.

22. Jacob Markstrom, Vancouver Canucks

23. Corey Crawford, Chicago Blackhawks

24. Cory Schneider, New Jersey Devils

25. Henrik Lundqvist, New York Rangers

Absurd order. Schneider's been awful for two years straight, Lundqvist's been average. Who else in their right mind would rank Markstrom, and even worse Elliott, above Crawford? I know he missed a lot of games last year, but he was excellent up to that point.

 

[mize370]

Elliott at 21 is a joke . Lol. He is horrible. I would take the next 4 under him easily!

 

[The Crypto Guy]

LOL Lundqvist at 25? Yikes.

Yea he's not in his prime anymore but he's still easily top 10-15. The whole list is pretty brutal.

 

[HTFN]

THN has this absurd love of all things Winnipeg, but Hellebuyck at 3 might be as funny as Byfuglien over Doughty.

 

[Section88]

This is bad with a capital b

 

[Lebowski]

Ignoring contracts, I’m fairly confident that if you gave every GM the opportunity to pick any goalie for their team next season, Price’s name would come up for most of them.

 

[Conbon]

Pleased to see that Mike Smith is appropriately rated

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Did THN just get whatever summer intern who's never watched hockey to write these lists one day?

 

[Allan92]

This is so bad

Lundqvist at 25? Gibson outside the top ten? Jones only at 18? Give me a break

 

[Strait2thecup]

This is so bad

Lundqvist at 25? Gibson outside the top ten? Jones only at 18? Give me a break

lundqvist at 25 what a f***in joke... im an islanders fan

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

This is so bad

Lundqvist at 25? Gibson outside the top ten? Jones only at 18? Give me a break

and Schneider below Markstrom lmfao

Terrible list

 

[Allan92]

and Schneider below Markstrom lmfao

Terrible list

Forgot to mention that. Schneider is going to shut up a lot of people this year