Line Combos: This team needs to mix things up!

behemolari

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Parise - Coyle - Granlund
Nino - Koivu - Pominville
Cooke - Brodziak - Heatley
Fontaine - Konopka - Mitchell

2nd reminds upgraded Brunette-Miettinen, 1st would be stellar
 

Avder

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I still think we should try something like:

Parise - Granlund - Pommer
Nino - Coyle - Zucker
Cooke - Koivu - Mitchell
Veilleux - Brodziak - Fontaine
 

behemolari

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I still think we should try something like:

Parise - Granlund - Pommer
Nino - Coyle - Zucker
Cooke - Koivu - Mitchell
Veilleux - Brodziak - Fontaine

I love this.. but wont happen as there must be some kind of clauses with Heatley and/or even Koivu to prevent this.

Yeo just doesn't get it... Split up Parise and Koivu. It's best for both of them. Give Parise someone who can create chances for him to finish and put Koivu in a position where he can best use his defensive game and not be needed to create these chances for Parise.

Best position for Koivu is between ****** player and ****** player, to bring their total play to above average level. Parise needs highly talented players with him.
 

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I wouldn't mind seeing Granlund get some shifts with Parise.

That saucer pass tip breakaway last game was awesome.
 

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Am I the only one concerned with the complete lack of discipline shown by Nino Niederreiter? We've got the 2nd worst PK in the league and if he plays 82 games in a top-9 role he'll probably end up with ~50 minors. Honestly we should consider sending him down when Coyle is healthy to work on his discipline, and continue to improve his offensive game.
 

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Am I the only one concerned with the complete lack of discipline shown by Nino Niederreiter? We've got the 2nd worst PK in the league and if he plays 82 games in a top-9 role he'll probably end up with ~50 minors. Honestly we should consider sending him down when Coyle is healthy to work on his discipline, and continue to improve his offensive game.

Wut.

Do you mean Heatley?
 

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Am I the only one concerned with the complete lack of discipline shown by Nino Niederreiter? We've got the 2nd worst PK in the league and if he plays 82 games in a top-9 role he'll probably end up with ~50 minors. Honestly we should consider sending him down when Coyle is healthy to work on his discipline, and continue to improve his offensive game.

I have to say i noticed this too. I'm sure Yeo and captains have said something to him about it.
 

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Heatley hasn't been this bad, ever. Why are we still giving him second line time? If anything, he deserves to be demoted. Maybe it will help him. He should have to earn his way back up to a top 4 role.
 

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Am I the only one concerned with the complete lack of discipline shown by Nino Niederreiter? We've got the 2nd worst PK in the league and if he plays 82 games in a top-9 role he'll probably end up with ~50 minors. Honestly we should consider sending him down when Coyle is healthy to work on his discipline, and continue to improve his offensive game.

I have to say i noticed this too. I'm sure Yeo and captains have said something to him about it.

Same here but im not worried yet, in other areas his game has been very positive.

Neiderreiter's penalties include:
(1) Hooking vs. LA
(1) High-sticking & (1) Goaltender Interference vs. Tornoto
(1) Hooking vs. Tampa Bay
(1) High Sticking vs. Florida

He had no penalties vs. Anaheim, Nashville, Winnipeg, Dallas, or Buffalo.

I don't really see the problem. Looking through those boxscores, there are other players committing more penalties than Nino. One trend I notice is that he tends to take penalties in games we're losing.
 

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Neiderreiter's penalties include:
(1) Hooking vs. LA
(1) High-sticking & (1) Goaltender Interference vs. Tornoto
(1) Hooking vs. Tampa Bay
(1) High Sticking vs. Florida

He had no penalties vs. Anaheim, Nashville, Winnipeg, Dallas, or Buffalo.

I don't really see the problem. Looking through those boxscores, there are other players committing more penalties than Nino. One trend I notice is that he tends to take penalties in games we're losing.

Most of those are offensive zone penalties and he has the most 2 minute penalties. Konopka and Stoner have had fights.
 

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Subtract the bogus goaltender interference penalty and he's on par with Koivu, Parise, and Heatley.
 

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Wut.

Do you mean Heatley?

No Heatley's PIM have been on the decline since joining the Wild, I'm not too concerned about him there, though he is on a high pace right now.

Neiderreiter's penalties include:
(1) Hooking vs. LA
(1) High-sticking & (1) Goaltender Interference vs. Tornoto
(1) Hooking vs. Tampa Bay
(1) High Sticking vs. Florida

He had no penalties vs. Anaheim, Nashville, Winnipeg, Dallas, or Buffalo.

I don't really see the problem. Looking through those boxscores, there are other players committing more penalties than Nino. One trend I notice is that he tends to take penalties in games we're losing.

Its where/when the penalties are called, the ones that he's getting away with also won't continue, he won't get the benefit of the doubt all the time. And he involves himself in post-whistle altercations, could set himself up for some calls there as well. He's an extremely reckless player yet to establish himself in this league. It wouldn't be as much of a problem if our PK wasn't so terrible, but it is.
 

behemolari

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Neiderreiter's penalties include:
(1) Hooking vs. LA
(1) High-sticking & (1) Goaltender Interference vs. Tornoto
(1) Hooking vs. Tampa Bay
(1) High Sticking vs. Florida

He had no penalties vs. Anaheim, Nashville, Winnipeg, Dallas, or Buffalo.

I don't really see the problem. Looking through those boxscores, there are other players committing more penalties than Nino. One trend I notice is that he tends to take penalties in games we're losing.

to me it looks like he has a certain grinding role on this team which includes going to grey area constantly, can't see problem
 

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High-sticking and hooking don't seem very reckless to me. I'd be concerned if he had a boarding penalty mixed in there somewhere.
 

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High-sticking and hooking don't seem very reckless to me. I'd be concerned if he had a boarding penalty mixed in there somewhere.

High-sticking and hooking especially on the offensive zone usually indicates lazyness but i'm not worried.
 

mezcal

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How does high-sticking indicate laziness?

I guess just not controlling his movement with the stick and just flailing it around or not paying attention. But I don't think he is really being lazy. He is new to the NHL and still needs to develop his discipline a bit more. The penalties he has taken aren't a big deal.
 

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I could see high-sticking someone as being mentally lazy (not paying attention to where stick/opponent are), I guess. Not sure that's typically the case with that type of penalty.

Yeah, I'd say it's more lack of discipline.
 

Sportsfan1

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I still think we should try something like:

Parise - Granlund - Pommer
Nino - Coyle - Zucker
Cooke - Koivu - Mitchell
Veilleux - Brodziak - Fontaine

You know I largely agree with this statement. Couldn't hurt, was actually thinking about this the other day, however I would go:

Parise-Coyle-Nino
Zucker-Granlund-Pominville
Heatley-Koivu-Fontaine
Cooke-Brodziak-Mitchell

Heatley is not going to be put in a press box the rest of the season so might as well stick him somewhere, and I still think with Koivu we might get something out of him, but again that is probably just me.
 

Avder

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Heatley brings nothing to the third or 4th lines and I do not think he is worth keeping in the lineup as a powerplay "specialist". In my opinion, he is a top 6 or bust player at this point, and right now he is a bust until he manages to get his game back together.

Stick him in the box until he fixes himself or the seasons over.
 

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