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Maybe by providing the players some consistent line mates ?
Yeah...this is kind of weird for me. There's been an awful lot of line juggling.
Maybe by providing the players some consistent line mates ?
Lol.
Yeah we didn't get to the cup finals with him as our #1 centre or anything. He hasn't consistently been our best player and p/g in the playoffs. Why does Ottawa attract so many fairweather fans? Is it just because of being a relatively new team?
No one can, but if there's anyone, it's a top form Karlsson.The team is built wrong imo with Spezza, Michalek and Karlsson. Karlsson just isnt enough to carry the whole defense by himself.
Wonder how we made the finals then with him as a #1C. 7.5m is expensive? He's worth between 7.5m to 8.5m. In the 07 finals, the other team had the great McDonald. It's as if the rest of the team has to be good too.Spezza is not the type of number 1 forward successful teams have and is too expensive.
Dominates possession numbers? What? I can think of only Datsyuk and Crosby who can do those while putting up points.We need a number one center who dominates possession numbers and has a solide two way game.
Well without him, we don't win the few games that we did when he was dominant.Spezza doesnt dominate when he's on the ice although he does produce.
The team is built wrong imo with Spezza, Michalek and Karlsson. Karlsson just isnt enough to carry the whole defense by himself. Spezza is not the type of number 1 forward successful teams have and is too expensive. We need a number one center who dominates possession numbers and has a solide two way game. Spezza doesnt dominate when he's on the ice although he does produce. Michalek is meh at 4mil but with his injury problems he's risky. Guy can be useful but probably better placed in a limited role. I also think or system is flawed. Theres way too much room for mistakes with our aggressive pinches.
Still way too early to freak out. We have all the pieces if guys step up. Methot regains his form, Cowen improves, Speeza gets better without the puck and become less turn over prone and Michalek accelerate his goal scoring pace and were good as gold.
I'd also like to call up hoffman to add more of a dimension of speed t line up. We don't exactly have that many speedsters atm.
This fanbase needs a shakeup. Too many Alfie sympathizers.
This is just silly. Completely silly. Spezza's two-way game is fine and better than a lot of 'elite' #1 centres. His possession numbers have also traditionally been fine (Spezza has only had a negative CorsiOn once in his entire career and that was in 2009-10). He doesn't have ridiculous possession numbers like say a Bergeron, Datsyuk or a Toews, but that comes at the expense of the offence he generates that they don't (minus Datsyuk, who is arguably a top 3 forward in the league).
But anyway you can believe what you want. Spezza is absolutely a #1 forward that teams are successful with. His peripherals are in line with guys like Malkin, Crosby, Getzlaf, Thornton et. al. who people drool over. The problem is that this is a team game and you need a strong team to win especially in a league that is constantly moving towards an even stronger level of parity.
Michalek just needs to convert more on the chances he's been given. I can't tell you how many times Spezza has already fed him a great chance (or someone else has) and he's either bobbled the puck or just done nothing with it. He's having a bad year even by his standards.
I do agree it's too early to freak out. This is a really good team that is just going through growing pains. There's been some close games with some really strong teams already and some flashes of brilliance.
Zibanejad, Turris, MacArthur, Pageau, Greening, Condra, Karlsson, Michalek and Conacher are not fast enough? Plenty of speed up front the problem is our D is not overly mobile outside of Karlsson.
Amen.
We're an uneven team in terms of speed: Spezza has solid top speed and good acceleration, Michalek is allaround fast, Karlsson is very fast, Conacher is speedy etc... Then we have Ryan who isn't SLOW but certainly isn't very fast (still love the guy!), Cowen who isn't very mobile, Phillips who is unfortunately getting there in age etc...
I know I keeping repeating myself but the issue is that the gap control is bad at the moment: the breakouts involve long passes far too often (it's been getting better) and this makes backcheking harder than it has to be; it's as if the D and the F aren't playing as a unit but as two seperate ones.
Wonder how we made the finals then with him as a #1C. 7.5m is expensive? He's worth between 7.5m to 8.5m. In the 07 finals, the other team had the great McDonald. It's as if the rest of the team has to be good too.
Well without him, we don't win the few games that we did when he was dominant.
Michalek is a product of Spezza, though while good, isn't someone you can say undermines the team because there are other more important players on the team.
This fanbase needs a shakeup. Too many Alfie sympathizers.
I'm certainly not throwing Spezza out with the bathwater but he needs to raise his deensive play to an elite level if this team is going to win a Cup with him.
11 didn't bring us a Cup. The Alfie love is sickening. I mean I get it but to put him high on a pedestal like he's perfect... yeah right.
Lots of people didn't bring us a Cup. Chara, Redden, Hossa, Havlat, Spezza, Heatley, Bonk, White, Hasek, Emery...
He wasn't perfect, but over the long-run, he was Ottawa's best player in our team's history with the statistics to prove it.
This is a fact.
He also probably had the best playoff performance of any Senator ever.
This is also a fact.
The pedestal he is on, is that of the best forward that has suited up for the team.
Spezza and Karlsson are very likely to surpass Alfredsson.
Lots of people didn't bring us a Cup. Chara, Redden, Hossa, Havlat, Spezza, Heatley, Bonk, White, Hasek, Emery...
He wasn't perfect, but over the long-run, he was Ottawa's best player in our team's history with the statistics to prove it.
This is a fact.
He also probably had the best playoff performance of any Senator ever.
This is also a fact.
The pedestal he is on, is that of the best forward that has suited up for the team.
Stone has almost fully recovered. When he is fully healthy, I think it is likely that he plays 2-3 games in Binghamton and then gets called up.
This fanbase needs a shakeup. Too many Alfie sympathizers.
Thought this was pretty neat. I was going to go with 'news article' but it's not really.
http://www.bonksmullet.com/2013/09/a-brief-history-of-jason-spezza.html
Pretty old but I hadn't seen it before.
That was pretty amazing. Gives some perspective to Spezza's time here. Nice find.
Spezza's year last year was better than any year Alfredsson had for the Sens. Alfredsson has longevity going for him, and that has always been his most impressive asset (obviously, he's very skilled also).