GDT: "This Is Our Stanley Cup" | NHL 2019 Entry Draft | Part II

[Soundwave]

Hall definitely staying in NJ now. Hughes, Subban, Hischier.

 

[Soundwave]

incredible really
"one for one" will live in infamy

That trade f***s us to this day, our forward depth was completely thrown off by that idiotic move and betting the farm on Lucic, Larsson, and Puljujarvi.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

incredible really
"one for one" will live in infamy

Chiarelli actually did more damage than the previous three GMs combined. It’s almost incredible.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

They've got $27M in cap space with basically only Zacha and Butcher to sign.

Now that's cap management. We just saw Carolina reap the rewards of cap management as well.

That PK was still a better defender than anything we had since Pronger.

Defensively? Nope.

 

[belair]

The thing is that they don't have any real long term commitments. Subban and Schneider's contracts are for 3 more years I believe so that gives them a strong 2-3 year window to compete and also convince Hall to stay.

Oh, I'm assuming Hall does stay.

They have a lot of roster holes to fill over the next few years to become that competitive product. If their development system provides that depth, they'll be fine. But I see them as a cap ceiling team in two years--especially if there's a playoff team there.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Now that's cap management. We just saw Carolina reap the rewards of cap management as well.



Defensively? Nope.

In every aspect of the game, yes.

 

[FlameChampion]

Subban just makes too much money and is trending downward.

That being said, I wish we had a GM (more previous GM's than Holland) who could get something done at reasonable prices.

Everything were on, seems to cost us a ton.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Oh, I'm assuming Hall does stay.

They have a lot of roster holes to fill over the next few years to become that competitive product. If their development system provides that depth, they'll be fine. But I see them as a cap ceiling team in two years--especially if there's a playoff team there.

They have the capspace to do it though. Oilers have more holes and even if we just bring in average 3rd liners we would be a cap ceiling

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

chia was balking at picks thinking adding college FA's and his secret draft gems would be enough to insulate the mcdavid cakewalk to the championship.

then when it blew up in his face he acted out and just started doing literally crazy shit.

 

[North]

Meanwhile many here are *****ing about us drafting a defenseman again this year.



Agreed, Nashville is a very smart organization.

I think people forget how you can use defensive depth to address weaknesses via trade.

They’re crying over Zegras forgetting that Holland watched him play a lot.

 

[Soundwave]

Subban just makes too much money and is trending downward.

That being said, I wish we had a GM (more previous GM's than Holland) who could get something done at reasonable prices.

Everything were on, seems to cost us a ton.

Subban is one year removed from being 1 point off his career high in points, lol. I don't think he's done.

 

[CycloneSweep]

I'm just going to enjoy the rest of the draft.

I don't think we see anymore trades this weekend. And I'm still heavily doubting that the Oil make any moves till the second day of free agency but I welcome surprises

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Hall definitely staying in NJ now. Hughes, Subban, Hischier.

It'll be interesting to see how 2 guys with allegedly big ego's in Hall and PK get along. If PK returns to form, the Devils are vastly improved.

 

[3IR]

Subban just makes too much money and is trending downward.

That being said, I wish we had a GM (more previous GM's than Holland) who could get something done at reasonable prices.

Everything were on, seems to cost us a ton.

It's the cost of being a perennial bottom feeder, having terrible management, and being a generally undesirable destination for families of players.

Our only hope is to win. Winning will make anywhere a desirable destination .

 

[Digger12]

Depends on what version of PK they're getting...the classic 60 point PK Subban of old, or the PK of last year who was <.5 PPG and a defensive liability? NJ had better hope for the former, because the latter is nowhere near worth the 9M/yr cap hit they're going to be eating for the next 3 years.

 

[Sugi21]

They have a long history of drafting d-men in the first round. Maybe this is the model Holland is trying to follow?

You can never have enough defenseman as some GM’s like to say and if memory serves me correct PK and Weber are second round picks?

 

[McTonyBrar]

It still blows me away chia couldn’t get a freakin + on Adam larsson..

I will never get over that trade

What will crying over it do?

 

[CupofOil]

Oh, I'm assuming Hall does stay.

They have a lot of roster holes to fill over the next few years to become that competitive product. If their development system provides that depth, they'll be fine. But I see them as a cap ceiling team in two years--especially if there's a playoff team there.

It'll be a good problem to have. They still have plenty of cap space to add depth and don't have to worry about paying Hughes for another 3 years so I think they'll be fine. Whether or not their chemistry meshes is up in the air but, on paper, that could well be a top 3 team in that division.

 

[Soundwave]

Subban is one year removed from 59 points and a career high 16 goals.

One year.

Not 5 years.

I think he was just playing through injuries last year.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

I think people forget how you can use defensive depth to address weaknesses via trade.

They’re crying over Zegras forgetting that Holland watched him play a lot.

I wonder if Jones gets moved? Likely the closest to NHL ready of our LHD prospects but likely the guy with the lowest upside between Broberg, Samorukov and himself.

Solid young defensemen are always in demand.

 

[Delicious Pancakes]

I don't mind that Subban deal for the Devils. Gives them a dimension on the blue line they need and they didn't give up much of substance (besides cap space).

Same thing for Carolina getting Marleau. Free first rounder because they can afford Marleau for a year. Nice.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Poile couldn't get rid of Subban fast enough tells me something about PK though

 

[McDrai]

That's 2 great deals for New Jersey landing Hall and Subban for pretty much nothing. Not that I wanted Subban due to his cap and declining play but I'm sure New Jersey will skyrocket past us in the standings now.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Depends on what version of PK they're getting...the classic 60 point PK Subban of old, or the PK of last year who was <.5 PPG and a defensive liability? NJ had better hope for the former, because the latter is nowhere near worth the 9M/yr cap hit they're going to be eating for the next 3 years.

PK was better than Larsson defensively and if he wasn't injured would of probably tied Nurse in points or passed him. That's all in a bad year.

 

[Soundwave]

Poile couldn't get rid of Subban fast enough tells me something about PK though

It could also mean they realized Turris is a bust for them and are trying to make a move for Duchene.

IMO Nashville dun goofed all around. They never should've let Seth Jones go in the first place for one.