Movies: The Yearly debate: Die Hard: Xmas movie or an action movie that takes place during Xmas
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Pranzo Oltranzista
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I tend to think that Christmas doesn't have enough of a definable meaning beyond the aesthetic setting for the "but it's not about Christmas" argument to make much sense. It's not like other Christmas movies, but yeah, sure it's a Christmas movie-- if it takes place there and people tend to watch the movie during Christmas, I'm not sure what other prerequisite you could fairly require.
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Christmas has to at least be the background for a film, it is not here outside of maybe the beginning.
It's far less of a Christmas movie than the 2nd 90s Batman but that one doesn't get associated with being a Christmas movie constantly because it isn't memorable.
It's far less of a Christmas movie than the 2nd 90s Batman but that one doesn't get associated with being a Christmas movie constantly because it isn't memorable.
It's a Christmas movie. Now can we move on to something actually important...is a hot dog a sandwich?
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Eyes Wide Shut is clearly a Christmas movie according to this thread.
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Both of the Tim Burton Batman films are extremely memorable, the tone, visual style and costuming were unique and very hard to forget. They are however 30 years old, are in a genre that has since been redefined and belong to a franchise that has produced better films since, they are not going to be top of mind for anyone who thinks about Batman or superhero films unless they stopped watching movies before 2008.
Die Hard on the other hand is arguably the greatest action film ever made, and the franchise it spawned has been trying to do the same thing over and over again since, with worse results every time. People who want to see John McClane kick ass are naturally going to gravitate towards the first film.
I wonder if this is partly a generational debate. If you're old enough to remember when Die Hard and Die Hard 2 (which was also set at Christmas) were released, you know that they were released in the middle of Summer... July 15 for Die Hard and July 4 for Die Hard 2. They were Summer blockbuster movies and some of us will always think of them as such. On the other hand, if you're younger and know them only from home video and being played on TV around Christmas, you may think of them more as Christmas movies because you've formed that connection, instead.
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Christmas movies are not simply movies that take place during Christmastime. Christmas movies are about the spirit of the holiday season.
If we humor the faulty logic, then any movie with so much as a single Christmas scene can be considered a Christmas movie, which is just plain silly.
Die Hard is one of the best action movies of all time, but that whole "Die Hard is a Christmas movie" trend wasn't unbearable until it was a joke on Brooklyn 99.
If we humor the faulty logic, then any movie with so much as a single Christmas scene can be considered a Christmas movie, which is just plain silly.
Die Hard is one of the best action movies of all time, but that whole "Die Hard is a Christmas movie" trend wasn't unbearable until it was a joke on Brooklyn 99.
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Tis an action flick. everyone is being duped by a joke/meme taken and spread. Power of the internet. At least it's innocent and all in good fun.
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Everyone can have their own interpretation, so there's a wide range of acceptable answers. The Grinch portrays different values than Elf, for example.
Generally, I would say the movie tries to depict Christmas as more than a normal day with the traditional themes of charity, kindness, togetherness, and (in some movies) spirituality.
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Same for Lethal Weapon.
Long story short, if Christmas isn't a crucial plot point then it's not a Christmas movie
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^ this.
If you take out Christmas, Die Hard doesn’t happen.
The obvious thing is that MacLean goes to visit his family on Christmas.
The lesser obvious thing is that Christmas Eve minimizes security presence, while a Christmas party creates the optimal hostage situation needed.
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Doctor Harford wouldn't have met Mandy and Nick Nightingale if not for the Christmas party at Ziegler's.
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I actually voted action movie originally because its was released in July and Christmas wasn't the main focus in the film....
HOWEVER, after discovering that what is widely regarded as one of the greatest Christmas movies of all time, It's a Wonderful Life, was not only released in January but also that it wasn't set during Christmas until the final 25 minutes or so, it makes perfect sense to consider Die Hard a Christmas movie.
HOWEVER, after discovering that what is widely regarded as one of the greatest Christmas movies of all time, It's a Wonderful Life, was not only released in January but also that it wasn't set during Christmas until the final 25 minutes or so, it makes perfect sense to consider Die Hard a Christmas movie.
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Burton's Batman movies are better than anything done since with that hero.
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