The "Tanking" And/Or Other Roster Moves Discussion Thread

[koteka]

what I would give to have Boston's scouting system!!!

Remember 2015 when Boston drafted 13th-15th and they picked Jakub Zboril, Jake Debrusk, and Zachary Senyshen and the guys drafted 16th-18th were Barzal, Kyle Connor, and Chabot? Boston has had some hits, but they have also had their misses.

 

[ViD]

Somebody needs to talk me off the ledge here. As a day one Jackets fan, I'm afraid we're looking at a 5 year rebuild and that's with clever, spot on drafting, something we're not exactly known for. I see a team loaded with bottom six players and only a couple of top six. I wasn't expecting Tex or Bem to be Ovechkin, but I wanted to see more than this from them. To me, the best young player has been Robinson and I would call him a solid third liner. I'm depressed and going out to dinner now.
PS...what I would give to have Boston's scouting system!!!

Yes, that is provably accurate perception of the CBJ future.
What needs to happen on the player personnel front

1. Get lucky in the draft lottery this year.

2. Scout KHL hard to get another solid player for free such as Gavrikov.

3. Get 1-2 good players off the UFA market

4. Get rid of older and not producing players.

if we get all these points right, we can start the next season more optimistic

 

[CBJWerenski8]

I’ve always said that if you get to 10 points or more under the last playoff spot then you’re dead in the playoff race.

the jackets have now hit that threshold. We are 11 points behind Carolina. We’re cooked. (Not that any of you needed me to tell you that)

 

[Madifer]

I’ve always said that if you get to 10 points or more under the last playoff spot then you’re dead in the playoff race.

the jackets have now hit that threshold. We are 11 points behind Carolina. We’re cooked. (Not that any of you needed me to tell you that)

Its fine.

I cant find a likeable team to support as a 2nd one (for the PO) as I hate them all lol.

I stick with CBJ in harder times as well. My russian bias seems to have completely vanished so the traditional "russian" choices like Caps or Pens are as unattractive as ever.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Yes, that is provably accurate perception of the CBJ future.
What needs to happen on the player personnel front

1. Get lucky in the draft lottery this year.

2. Scout KHL hard to get another solid player for free such as Gavrikov.

3. Get 1-2 good players off the UFA market

4. Get rid of older and not producing players.

if we get all these points right, we can start the next season more optimistic

Gavrikov was a draft pick but I get your point.

 

[koteka]

Here are the top forwards available in free agency according to NHL.com:

Taylor Hall, LW
Nicklas Backstrom, C
Evgenii Dadonov, LW/RW
Mike Hoffman, LW/RW
Zack Kassian, RW
Mikael Granlund, C/LW/RW
Erik Haula, C/LW
Alex Galchenyuk, C/LW
Chris Kreider, LW
Tyler Toffoli, RW

Fantasy: Potential unrestricted free agents in 2020

 

[JacketsDavid]

Here are the top forwards available in free agency according to NHL.com:

Taylor Hall, LW
Nicklas Backstrom, C
Evgenii Dadonov, LW/RW
Mike Hoffman, LW/RW
Zack Kassian, RW
Mikael Granlund, C/LW/RW
Erik Haula, C/LW
Alex Galchenyuk, C/LW
Chris Kreider, LW
Tyler Toffoli, RW

Fantasy: Potential unrestricted free agents in 2020

Where is the list of guys who would consider Columbus (the over 32 year olds, oft-injured, etc)?
That's the list we need to be looking over

 

[JacketsDavid]

One of the few assets we have is cap space. We have to hope someone (like the Panarin deal) is so bad, that they would move a good player to free up space. Probably doesn't hurt if that team is in the West so they are trying to make sure the move doesn't haunt them.
Then hope that player takes the oath to love Columbus is the tricky part...

 

[EDM]

Obviously Hall is the cream of the crop.

 

[cslebn]

Obviously Hall is the cream of the crop.

Hall's contact is going to be bad. He's going to look for max money and term. And he wants to win.

 

[ViD]

I’d like to see Hoffman or Dadonov signed.

Backstrom and Hall are obviously unrealistic

 

[EDM]

Because he is "going to look for max money" does not mean Hall's contract will be bad. If he delivers on the ice, you pay the man.

 

[EDM]

But I agree it is totally unrealistic to think Hall has any interest in coming here.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

But I agree it is totally unrealistic to think Hall has any interest in coming here.

Probably not but maybe we could get Oates as Torts' replacement.

 

[Madifer]

Probably not but maybe we could get Oates as Torts' replacement.

Really? Why hire Oates?

I do agree that this team may need fresh air by the next season but why hire Oates..?

 

[Cyclones Rock]

Really? Why hire Oates?

I do agree that this team may need fresh air by the next season but why hire Oates..?

Because he'll bring hall with him

 

[CBJ goalie]

Somebody needs to talk me off the ledge here. As a day one Jackets fan, I'm afraid we're looking at a 5 year rebuild and that's with clever, spot on drafting, something we're not exactly known for. I see a team loaded with bottom six players and only a couple of top six. I wasn't expecting Tex or Bem to be Ovechkin, but I wanted to see more than this from them. To me, the best young player has been Robinson and I would call him a solid third liner. I'm depressed and going out to dinner now.
PS...what I would give to have Boston's scouting system!!!

I can't empathize much, as you've been a fan much longer than me so you've been through some terrible times with them - but I think it's a little much to say they're looking at a 5 year rebuild.
Not in this existing cap world....look at Ottawa, they're better than everyone has given them credit for and they're competitive after 1 year.
Colorado is another example, they were brutal in 16-17 season, only winning 22 games - they won 43 the next season.

A team can have an off year, and it appears this may be one for the CBJ. Remember, they've been one of the winningest over the last 3, 4 years.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Really? Why hire Oates?

I do agree that this team may need fresh air by the next season but why hire Oates..?

I understand why you can't go for that but it would make my dreams come true. Since it's the Jackets, it probably doesn't matter anyway.

 

[Madifer]

I understand why you can't go for that but it would make my dreams come true. Since it's the Jackets, it probably doesn't matter anyway.

Man, Im not sure why I interpret this as negativity and if Im right in this assumption then maybe we should try to think and to stay positive.

This franchise is very likeable and Im sure it will give us many unforgettable moments in the future. So yes, all of it does matter.

Again: Im not sure that my interpretation is correct on any level

 

[DarkandStormy]

Where is the list of guys who would consider Columbus (the over 32 year olds, oft-injured, etc)?
That's the list we need to be looking over

-Ryan Callahan
-Mikko Koivu
-Mike Green
-Wayne Simmonds
-Martin Hanzal
-Carl Soderberg
-Michael Frolik
-Vladimir Sobotka
-Sam Gagner redux
-Ryan Reaves
-Colin Wilson
-Corey Perry
-Brad Richardson
-Derrick Brassard

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Man, Im not sure why I interpret this as negativity and if Im right in this assumption then maybe we should try to think and to stay positive.

This franchise is very likeable and Im sure it will give us many unforgettable moments in the future. So yes, all of it does matter.

Again: Im not sure that my interpretation is correct on any level

I know you’re thinking say it isn’t so DSL but maybe I’m just out of touch.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

-Ryan Callahan
-Mikko Koivu
-Mike Green
-Wayne Simmonds
-Martin Hanzal
-Carl Soderberg
-Michael Frolik
-Vladimir Sobotka
-Sam Gagner redux
-Ryan Reaves
-Colin Wilson
-Corey Perry
-Brad Richardson
-Derrick Brassard

Before everyone’s egos got in the way and thought they were a good team they could have had Brassard dirt cheap. He’s got 7 goals and 10 assists for the Islanders.

 

[Viqsi]

Before everyone’s egos got in the way and thought they were a good team they could have had Brassard dirt cheap. He’s got 7 goals and 10 assists for the Islanders.

"Sure, let's sign a guy who scored all of 23 points, having been handed off to three different teams and never really producing at any of 'em. He's done."

It's the Stupid Hindsight posts that always annoy me the most.

 

[EspenK]

Really? Why hire Oates?

I do agree that this team may need fresh air by the next season but why hire Oates..?

I think you missed DSL's wicked wit. He was playing off of the American rock duo Hall & Oates.

 

[Madifer]

I think you missed DSL's wicked wit. He was playing off of the American rock duo Hall & Oates.

Yes thats what it felt like. Hey I pardon myself etc