Prospect Info: The Second Overall Pick Thread: Part II (Kakko/Hughes Talk)

[Amazing Kreiderman]

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[Harbour Dog]

You should wear a Rangers jersey over it, and then remove it after we make the selection!

Or vice versa.

 

[RangerBlues]

Its completely reasonable to believe the Rangers will go off board pick someone besides Kakko.
The last two drafts are proof of it.

 

[BroadwayStorm]

I think if we come out of this with a Petr Prucha or Derrick Brassard type of player we are going to win.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Its completely reasonable to believe the Rangers will go off board pick someone besides Kakko.
The last two drafts are proof of it.

I don’t think you understand the draft or what off the board means

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Its completely reasonable to believe the Rangers will go off board pick someone besides Kakko.
The last two drafts are proof of it.

Can you go off the board?

As in off of this one

 

[Ghost of jas]

I think if we come out of this with a Petr Prucha or Derrick Brassard type of player we are going to win.

Um, what?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Its completely reasonable to believe the Rangers will go off board pick someone besides Kakko.
The last two drafts are proof of it.

The only time I'm happy with someone going off the board is if it's you.

Bye

 

[RangerBlues]

I don’t think you understand the draft or what off the board means

So splain me then.

There were 4 confused humans on TV when the Rangers took Kravtov last year.
Everybody expected them to take that goalie at the top of the second.
Right?
I think one poster predicted Lias.

 

[RangerBlues]

Personally it would be delusional not to pick Hughes or Kakko.
But Im not the Rangers scouting and player development team.
They have never been what you can call conventional.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

So splain me then.

There were 4 confused humans on TV when the Rangers took Kravtov last year.
Everybody expected them to take that goalie at the top of the second.
Right?
I think one poster predicted Lias.

Picking 2nd overall is completely different.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Bob McKenzie literally called them picking Kravstov.

You fix stuff? You should probably start with your ears and eyes.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

So splain me then.

There were 4 confused humans on TV when the Rangers took Kravtov last year.
Everybody expected them to take that goalie at the top of the second.
Right?
I think one poster predicted Lias.

How bout you ‘splain to me why network scouting lists are the lists that should be followed. How bout you also ‘splain to me how anything you brought up means that you understand the draft or what being off the board means

 

[RangerBlues]

Picking 2nd overall is completely different.

I dont believe a team would change player rating philosophy no matter where they are picking.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I dont believe a team would change player rating philosophy no matter where they are picking.

I was not talking about player rating philosophy.

At 2nd overall, there's no dispute who is the best player. It's not even close. Not even Chiarelli would pick another player in that position

 

[RangerBlues]

How bout you ‘splain to me why network scouting lists are the lists that should be followed. How bout you also ‘splain to me how anything you brought up means that you understand the draft or what being off the board means

Bob McKenzie literally called them picking Kravstov.

You fix stuff? You should probably start with your ears and eyes.

Thats what he was saying the day of.
His ranking was all over. Mostly mid to bottom of the first round.
One second and one third round even
His film was rock star all over. I think it was a miracle he made it to 9

 

[Polar Bear]

Its completely reasonable to believe the Rangers will go off board pick someone besides Kakko.
The last two drafts are proof of it.

First, you have no idea what you’re talking about.

Second, Bob already confirmed that you’re wrong a few days ago.

Third, perhaps you should go off the board for a few days.

 

[Polar Bear]

I was not talking about player rating philosophy.

At 2nd overall, there's no dispute who is the best player. It's not even close. Not even Chiarelli would pick another player in that position

Even Chiarelli took Seguin 2nd overall. Lol

It’s virtually unheard of for a team to go off the board with a top 2 pick.

 

[RangerBlues]

I was not talking about player rating philosophy.

At 2nd overall, there's no dispute who is the best player. It's not even close. Not even Chiarelli would pick another player in that position

I also believe he is the second best. Does Gorts and company believe that?

 

[Polar Bear]

Thats what he was saying the day of.
His ranking was all over. Mostly mid to bottom of the first round.
One second and one third round even
His film was rock star all over. I think it was a miracle he made it to 9

Bob said the night before that Kravstov was a late riser, had him at 11, and even said before our pick we were taking him. It wasn’t an off the board pick at all. Also such a different situation picking at 9 versus 2.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Thats what he was saying the day of.
His ranking was all over. Mostly mid to bottom of the first round.
One second and one third round even
His film was rock star all over. I think it was a miracle he made it to 9

That’s because networks don’t pay to send their scouts to random games in Russia just for a list, they rely heavily on international tournaments and reading star sheets for their viewings of those kids

And while we’re at it: a year later, were the Rangers wrong?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I also believe he is the second best. Does Gorts and company believe that?

Yes

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Bob said the night before that Kravstov was a late riser, had him at 11, and even said before our pick we were taking him. It wasn’t an off the board pick at all. Also such a different situation picking at 9 versus 2.

It's important to note that after the cream of the crop come off the board, the tiers of players following the elite are usually pretty closely rated.

Last year it was Dahlin on an island by himself, Svechnikov on another one by himself, and then a whole mess of guys who could have gone anywhere between 3-12.

The middle of the 1st was even more over the place, with teams going "off the board" a whole bunch. When there is a no brainer pick, it's always made.

 

[Polar Bear]

Yes

Bob confirmed we’re taking Kakko, and if that’s not enough, Quinn pretty much outright hinted and said he might have to take a flight out to Finland. It’s done, we are taking one of Hughes/Kakko, and it’s been as such since the lottery.

 

[Polar Bear]

It's important to note that after the cream of the crop come off the board, the tiers of players following the elite are usually pretty closely rated.

Last year it was Dahlin on an island by himself, Svechnikov on another one by himself, and then a whole mess of guys who could have gone anywhere between 3-12.

The middle of the 1st was even more over the place, with teams going "off the board" a whole bunch. When there is a no brainer pick, it's always made.

This is true, but my overall point is that it wasn’t exactly an off the board pick, and picking at 9 is a different universe of a situation than the top 2.