Speculation: The Roster Building Thread - To the deadline and beyond!

[Brock Anton]

I don't care how bad he's been, I'm not trading Faulk for a prospect and a pick. That's insane.

 

[NotOpie]

I don't care how bad he's been, I'm not trading Faulk for a prospect and a pick. That's insane.

I was unclear....I should have said, at Faulk's current level of play, it feels like he's worth a prospect like Howden, Katchouk, or Raddysh (all three are high quality prospects) and a good pick. But I'd have to think very long and hard about that - meaning do I think he can recapture his previous level of play....that's where I'm just not sure. Right now he looks as lost as anybody.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I strongly disagree that Raddysh is a high quality prospect. His name sounds like radish and there's no way a guy named radish ever becomes a good player.

 

[AD Skinner]

And I think we all remember what happened to this guy

 

[Vagrant]

if there's one thing that would be hard to sell a new owner on right now, it's trading for picks or prospects. if karmanos was still running the show, perhaps we do something more future minded. as it stands currently it feels like we're more likely buyers than sellers as weird as that seems.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

In terms of the off season, I don't see us trading for picks or prospects, unless the prospect is deemed high potential and NHL ready. It's been way too long to be out of the playoffs so can't be making moves that push it out further.

If we are out of it by the deadline, I could see some trades for picks/prospects though. Guys like Ryan and Stempniak for instance. Could then do like Francis did this past off season and use the picks to get roster players, only hopefully with more success (TVR worked out, Kruger and Darling so far haven't).

 

[tarheelhockey]

Perhaps we can re-acquire some former Hurricanes, that usually works well.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Perhaps we can re-acquire some former Hurricanes, that usually works well.

Going to be tough to do. The vast majority of them are either out of the league, or are in a coaching, scouting, director, or some other made up position for the Canes.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Faulk for Ogie Oglethorpe, "Dr. Hook" McCracken, Clarence "Screaming Buffalo" Swamptown, and a player to be named later.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Ogie wouldn't be afraid to go to the net.

 

[CandyCanes]

Going to be tough to do. The vast majority of them are either out of the league, or are in a coaching, scouting, director, or some other made up position for the Canes.

It's because Francis hasn't made a player for player trade in his tenure so there's no solid recent former Hurricane worth acquiring.

 

[Unsustainable]

Ogie wouldn't be afraid to go to the net.

Wouldn’t be allowed to

 

[Bub]

Faulk for Ogie Oglethorpe, "Dr. Hook" McCracken, Clarence "Screaming Buffalo" Swamptown, and a player to be named later.

Throw in Gilmore Tuttle and it's a deal.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Throw in Gilmore Tuttle and it's a deal.

That dude is a cancer.

 

[Svechhammer]

What's David Tanabe up to lately?

 

[DaveG]

Considering that a lack of physicality on our back end is one of our biggest issues, "Poodle" Lussier is included in this deal or I riot.

 

[NotOpie]

I get that we won't and even agree that we probably shouldn't trade a player like Faulk for futures. That said, I was mostly commenting on the value of his recent play.

Not to beat the dead horse, sound like a broken record, etc. I'd only trade one of our young, active players for somebody who could help us now and in the future (BBA and I have both commented on ROR in this regard). Even then, it might be something more akin to a futures heavy deal on our end with an active player and near ready prospect included. I also agree that it would be hard for us to swing this type of deal until the draft (maybe a guy like Hoffman excepted).

 

[Moosetache]

I would bet that Skinner gets traded before the end of his current contract, particularly if Peters is remaining behind the bench. I know he is a scorer, which we need more of, but I just feel like he can't be trusted out there a lot of the time, and how in the world is he like a -25?

Skinner + pick for a Dman followed by Faulk + pick for a Forward maybe center depending on what else has happened prior.

 

[TheBigKahuna]

What's David Tanabe up to lately?

He doesn't know.

 

[SaskCanesFan]

For me it depends on what players are available for Faulk, and what constitutes "futures." If a ROR or RNH can reasonably be had, then that's the better move. If they aren't available though and we're selling at the deadline, a guy like Howden might work alright for futures. I don't know enough about him, but if smarter people than me say he's a big, high potential player that's ready to step in and contribute in the NHL next season, then I'd be OK with it.

I compare it to say Brayden Point. If we trade Faulk for what he was 2 years ago, that would have been a "futures" deal and looked down on. But now that he's established, looking like a 60+ point 2C, Faulk isn't touching him. A move like that, catching a guy right before he steps in and establishes himself could have a big payoff. The risk is really trusting your scouting staff to make sure you've got the right guy

 

[Unsustainable]

Considering that a lack of physicality on our back end is one of our biggest issues, "Poodle" Lussier is included in this deal or I riot.

Skinner for Trouba, Faulk for ROR, sign JVR.

There, I fixed issues.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Skinner for Trouba, Faulk for ROR, sign JVR.

There, I fixed issues.

And when RF has incriminating pictures of WPG and BUFF GMs, he'll be able to pull off those trades.

 

[Stickpucker]

It's because Francis hasn't made a player for player trade in his tenure so there's no solid recent former Hurricane worth acquiring.

Reunite the Estaalos!

 

[Unsustainable]

And when RF has incriminating pictures of WPG and BUFF GMs, he'll be able to pull off those trades.

To be fair, I said I fixed it.

 

[Breakdowns]

I have a new strategy - just do something - and by that I mean not using our scratch players but something - waivers, call up from Checkers, trade. SOMETHING.