The RFA's, How Much $?

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Currently the Flyers are on track to have just a little over 31.5 million dollars in cap space next season without a cap increase, which it assuredly will. So let's be conservative and say it will rise to 82 million and you can add another 2.5 million to the amount of cap space they have. 33 million dollars or there abouts.

The Players we are losing as UFA's;

Wayne Simmonds 3.975 million
Jori Lehtera 4.7 million
Michael Raffl 2.35 million
Christian Folin 800 thousand
Mike McKenna 700 thousand
Brian Elliott 2.75 million
Michal Neuvirth 2.5 million

I could see them retaining Raffl of that crew, however I wouldn't mind if he left and a younger player got his spot in the lineup. I don't think he would get much of a raise at all from where he currently is at. The rest I think are gone. Wayne Simmonds should be traded at the deadline for younger assets hopefully one or two of which can immediately be plugged into the lineup.

The RFA's;

Scott Laughton 962.5k
Travis Konecny 894k
Ivan Provorov 894k
Travis Sanheim 863k
Anthony Stolarz 761k
Nicolas Aube-Kubel 680k

All need to be resigned this coming summer. How much will they cost each, how many do we see on Bridge Deals, how many get Holmgren-esque contracts where they get paid more for what they will be and less what they are now, to potentially save more money in the future ala JvR, Gostisbehere, Couturier, etc. How much space will we have when all is said and done? Who are the comparables?

Looking at Fletchers contract history with the Wild, it seems like he favors overpaying for potential production to his young guys to secure them at cap hits lower than their actual value during their prime years. Spurgeon, Koivu, Brodin, Granlund, and Coyle, all got pretty team friendly deals that helped Fletcher to make the moves in Free Agency that allowed him to turn the Wild into a destination market. Eric Staal, Zach Parise and Ryan Suter all were signed by Fletch and all things considered were pretty good moves for the organization. Now you can look at those contracts for Parise and Suter that he handed out and say but OMG they are 13 years long for guys that are on the wrong side of their career. But end of the day thats what he had to do to sign them. That was the climate during that Free Agent period. As far as I can remember, this was to be the last summer these players could sign these mega deals, after that summer the 7 year limit on Free Agent signings was put in place. Both Parise and Suter wanted the security that came with that type of contract.

So. What do we think? What do these guys sign back for? How much cap space will we have after these guys are all signed?
 

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Provorov
5,750,000 x 6 (was ready to suggest 6x6 and I'd feel great about that. Have to use his poor season against him)

Some recent-ish RFA comps:
Ekblad @ 7.5 x 8
Jones @ 5.4 x 6
Ristolainen @ 5.4 x 6
Skjei @ 5.25 x 6
Lindholm @ 5.2 x 6
Theodore@ 5.2 x 7
Rielly @ 5 x 6
Hanifin @ 4.95 x 6
Chychrun @ 4.6 x 6
Ghost @ 4.5 x 6

Sanehim & Konecny who knows it's tougher to gauge both on cap & term.

Konecny
no idea what to expect. a lot of variance.Looks like it would be either a 6 or for 2 year deal. 4.5 x 6? Too much?

Some recent-ish RFA comps:
Lindholm @ 4.85 x 6
Tuch @ 4.75 x 7
Dvorak @ 4.45 x 6
Rakell @ 3.8 x 6
Reinhart @ 3.65 x 2
Mantha @ 3.3 x 2
Domi @ 3.15 x 2
Burkovsky @ 3 x 2
 
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Raffl 2.25
Laughton 2.4
Konecny 5
Provorov 7
Sanheim 3.5
Stolarz 1.25
NAK 1

Idk something like 22ish million between them, if all resigned. So I guess we should have 10 million in space to grab Panarin or whatever.
 

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Provorov might make some sense to bridge to see where the scoring/icetime settle with a competent coach managing his role. By his production and upside, I think he's closer to 5MM than 6+.
 
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What I expect..

Provy - 8 × $6
Konecny - 2 × $4.5
Sanheim - 2 × $3.5
Laughton - 2 × $2.5

All UFAs walk except MAYBE Raffl.
 
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The Burdened

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Think you guys are crazy if you think Provorov takes less than $6M. If that were the case he'd be signed already.
He's not gonna get close to 7 which was a worry after last season, so that's good (or bad, because it means he regressed this year. I digress)

I thought for certain it would be comfortably in the mid 6's, but maybe not so much now when you look at comps + his poor year this year.

Like, how much more should he get than Lindholm got at the time of his signing? Similar importance to their team, but at 3-years in Provorov has out produced him by a couple goals and probably 30 pts when this seasons over. I think him getting an 800K bump from what Lindholm got is reasonable.

6x6 would prob be the sweet spot. Outside of the Skjei & Ekblad deals, the 2nd contracts for dmen have not gotten out of hand... yet.

EDIT actually Skjei only has 10 less career pts than Provorov has. I thought the gap was wider. Not that POINTS are everything not even close because Provorov is significantly the better player, but something to consider.
 
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It's long long time away, and who knows if he keeps it up, but I've been wondering what Hart may cost us one day :) If he really does keep it up
 

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Try to sign Sanheim to a Matheson type deal.

Sanheim : 8 years 4.5-5 per year.
Konency : 6 years 4.5 per year.
Provorov : 7 years 6.5 per year.

You get these kids on longer deal and less money the time to add to this team would be now. You would have cap flexibility to bring in a Karlsson or Panarin and still have plenty to improve the roster.
 

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Raffl 2.25
Laughton 2.4
Konecny 5
Provorov 7
Sanheim 3.5
Stolarz 1.25
NAK 1

Idk something like 22ish million between them, if all resigned. So I guess we should have 10 million in space to grab Panarin or whatever.
This is probably about as accurate as it's going to get, give or take $250k on everyone not named NAK or Stolie. No interest in bringing back anyone else other than Simmer on a deep discount (which I don't think he would or should do).
 
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TheKingPin

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Try to sign Sanheim to a Matheson type deal.

Sanheim : 8 years 4.5-5 per year.
Konency : 6 years 4.5 per year.
Provorov : 7 years 6.5 per year.

You get these kids on longer deal and less money the time to add to this team would be now. You would have cap flexibility to bring in a Karlsson or Panarin and still have plenty to improve the roster.
All of these deals would realistic and absolute steals as soon as next year.
 

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I hope we can sign Provy for 6-6.5$
5-6 year term would be perfect, cause I'd rather sign 27 yo Provorov next time than 30 yo.

No way Sanheim signs long term, it 100% is gonna be a brige deal.

Not sure about TK, hope it will be around 5x5
 

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