News Article: The Return of John Davidson (Dispatch confirms JD returning as President)

Cyclones Rock

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Defense? I don't recall saying anything about this particular decision. For the record, I'm kind of meh but hoping it works out. I was just more amused at the immediate and overwhelming hatred.
Hatred?:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

You love to assign extreme qualities to people's posts. It's called projection in your case. Look inward, hon:laugh:
 
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Cyclones Rock

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Yeah -- they played hardball after that first Vezina in that 12-13 shortened season. Got him to sign that 2 year deal.

If I recall correctly it was one of those take this contract or we'll trade you deals.
That was a huge misstep. 6 years would have been ideal and probably very doable. It ended up not hurting because he signed for 4 years on his next deal. Sorta dumb luck for the RFA geniuses.
 
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Why has nobody in the CBJ organization posted the press conference yet? I know one happened but it’s not posted on YouTube, Twitter, or the website
 

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In 15 years of leading NHL franchises, John Davidson's teams have won 2 playoff rounds. Two. 2. 002.

St. Louis 6 years-1 playoff round victory. Columbus 7 years-1 playoff round victory. NYR 2 years-O rounds won.

Hiring a 68 year old retread-who blew off the organization while having time left on his contract just 2 years ago-with that kind of record shows what this organization is all about. Mediocrity. Familiarity. Bogus PR. And a big time lack of self esteem.

What. A. Joke.
 

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Which goaltender are they going to trade, Joonas Korpisalo Will they trade left winger Patrik Laine or sign him to a new contract? Will defenseman Zach Werenski sign an extension? What do they do with the expansion draft, the three first-round picks, etc.?

John Davidson returns to restore faith, patience and direction to Blue Jackets

The first...they specialists must say.
The second I hope that Patrik stays here..one year contract and then we would see.
The third..I hope Werenski stay here too.

What`s happen Davidson.. he is respected so maybe it`s good he`s here.
 

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In 15 years of leading NHL franchises, John Davidson's teams have won 2 playoff rounds. Two. 2. 002.

St. Louis 6 years-1 playoff round victory. Columbus 7 years-1 playoff round victory. NYR 2 years-O rounds won.

Hiring a 68 year old retread-who blew off the organization while having time left on his contract just 2 years ago-with that kind of record shows what this organization is all about. Mediocrity. Familiarity. Bogus PR. And a big time lack of self esteem.

What. A. Joke.
Or you could look at the Blues roster that won a cup and count the number of players acquired and developed after he took over the organization at their lowest point.

Columbus lives in a world of mediocrity because we can never collect high lottery picks.
 

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Columbus lives in a world of mediocrity because we can never collect high lottery picks.

A tired trope in my opinion.

The Blues only had on their roster a 4th OA in Pietro that they drafted. They were good because they drafted well with the picks they had, and made a few really smart trades and signings.

Artemi Panarın is honestly a better player than anyone they had, and better than all but a few 1sts overalls.
 

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In 15 years of leading NHL franchises, John Davidson's teams have won 2 playoff rounds. Two. 2. 002.

St. Louis 6 years-1 playoff round victory. Columbus 7 years-1 playoff round victory. NYR 2 years-O rounds won.

Hiring a 68 year old retread-who blew off the organization while having time left on his contract just 2 years ago-with that kind of record shows what this organization is all about. Mediocrity. Familiarity. Bogus PR. And a big time lack of self esteem.

What. A. Joke.
Absolutely nailed it....
 

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I think that Arace's column in this morning's Dispatch puts the return of JD in proper perspective without any hyperbole.
 
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Iron Balls McGinty

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I think that Arace's column in this morning's Dispatch puts the return of JD in proper perspective without any hyperbole.

"They went from a team that swept the mighty Tampa Bay Lightning and went toe-to-toe with the Boston Bruins in the 2019 playoffs to the fourth-worst record in the league in 2021."

This is all I need to hear. People can b*tch and moan about him leaving and the perception that we came crawling back to him begging him to take us back. I'm over that stuff. There isn't a person on this board who wouldn't beg for a chance to be back where we were 2 years ago. This isn't about Panarin wanting a garage in NY. There are plenty of questionable decisions this organization have made since he was gone that we've all endlessly debated about

Say whatever you want but I believe the front office failed by letting an exodus occur and not hiring replacements. JD coming back it the chance to right this wrong and start heading the right direction again. I fail to see how this could even remotely be considered a bad thing for the organization. Jarmo was in over his head handling everything and I'm glad the organization realized we will always need more quality, respectable people working here.
 

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Iron Balls, you hit the nail on the head. There was a mass exit after the successful 2019 season and Jarmo ineptly thought he filled the vacuum with Texier and Bemstrum. It is that astonishingly stupid decision by Jarmo which caused me to lose all confidence in him. Clearly Jarmo was "in over his head". Glad we have more voices in the room now with JD back. Left to his own, Jarmo has destroyed the team in two years. He earned every bit of the Jarmo Maclean name with which I dubbed him. NOw JD is back, Jarmo is not alone. Let's move forward to regain some success.
 

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A tired trope in my opinion.

The Blues only had on their roster a 4th OA in Pietro that they drafted. They were good because they drafted well with the picks they had, and made a few really smart trades and signings.

Artemi Panarın is honestly a better player than anyone they had, and better than all but a few 1sts overalls.

Emphasis on those trades but also a good system and hot goalie.
 
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Iron Balls McGinty

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It took them two years to replace the POHOP who bailed, for example.
Exactly. Regardless if it was JD or another competent individual, I'm ecstatic that we now have another voice in the room to bounce ideas and be a part of the process.

And when I say Jarmo was in over his head, I don't mean he's an incompetent individual. I mean he had too much on his plate to handle and deal with effectively. With JD back they can divide and conquer tasks more efficiently.
 

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Or you could look at the Blues roster that won a cup and count the number of players acquired and developed after he took over the organization at their lowest point.

Columbus lives in a world of mediocrity because we can never collect high lottery picks.

Ryan O'Reilly - traded for well after J.D. had left
Jaden Schwartz - drafted in 2010 (J.D. was there, I don't think Jarmo was there anymore)
Alex Pietrangelo - drafted in 2008 (J.D. was there, Jarmo was still there I think)
Vladimir Tarasneko - drafted in 2010
David Perron - sure, drafted in 2007 by St. Louis, but was traded to Edmonton in 2013, then traded to Pittsburgh in 2015, then came back to St. Louis, then drafted by Vegas, then back to St. Louis a 3rd time
Tyler Bozak - signed as a free agent in 2018
Brayden Schenn - acquired via trade at the 2017 NHL draft
Colton Parayko - drafted in 2012
Oskar Sundqvist - acquired via trade at the 2017 NHL draft
Patrick Maroon - signed as a free agent in 2018
Vince Dunn - drafted in 2015
Jordan Binnington - drafted in 2011 (not sure how much credit you want to give J.D. here)

Over half of their top 12 or so players from their Stanley Cup team were acquired after J.D. left. So does he get credit for laying the foundation or is it a mark against that they become consistent contenders (and won) after he left?
 

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Ryan O'Reilly - traded for well after J.D. had left
Jaden Schwartz - drafted in 2010 (J.D. was there, I don't think Jarmo was there anymore)
Alex Pietrangelo - drafted in 2008 (J.D. was there, Jarmo was still there I think)
Vladimir Tarasneko - drafted in 2010
David Perron - sure, drafted in 2007 by St. Louis, but was traded to Edmonton in 2013, then traded to Pittsburgh in 2015, then came back to St. Louis, then drafted by Vegas, then back to St. Louis a 3rd time
Tyler Bozak - signed as a free agent in 2018
Brayden Schenn - acquired via trade at the 2017 NHL draft
Colton Parayko - drafted in 2012
Oskar Sundqvist - acquired via trade at the 2017 NHL draft
Patrick Maroon - signed as a free agent in 2018
Vince Dunn - drafted in 2015
Jordan Binnington - drafted in 2011 (not sure how much credit you want to give J.D. here)

Over half of their top 12 or so players from their Stanley Cup team were acquired after J.D. left. So does he get credit for laying the foundation or is it a mark against that they become consistent contenders (and won) after he left?

Nobody can ever build a championship team completely from the draft but the key points are:

Jaden Schwartz - drafted in 2010 (J.D. was there, I don't think Jarmo was there anymore)
Alex Pietrangelo - drafted in 2008 (J.D. was there, Jarmo was still there I think)
Vladimir Tarasneko - drafted in 2010

Effective use of first round draft picks, which is something we've failed at historically as a team. Partially because we've never sucked bad enough to consistently draft high and partly because the players we've chosen didn't fit the system. I feel like that is more on Jarmo being the "master scout" than ever being JD's fault.
 
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