Prospect Info: The Premature 2020 Draft Thread

How Many Seasons Until Yaroslav Askarov is an NHL Starter?

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Mcnotloilersfan

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All I can say is that if we lose, and fluke our way to the #1 pick, you go all in on a 3 year window while he's in his ELC.

Picks and prospects can be traded for cap relief and roster improvements.

If the cupboards are bare at the end of those 3 years, (you better have won a cup), you can trade Alex to restock the cupboards if you can't afford to keep him.
 
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Tobias Kahun

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All I can say is that if we lose, and fluke our way to the #1 pick, you go all in on a 3 year window while he's in his ELC.

Picks and prospects can be traded for cap relief and roster improvements.

If the cupboards are bare at the end of those 3 years, (you better have won a cup), you can trade Alex to restock the cupboards if you can't afford to keep him.
First thing you do, is make a bunch of popcorn and head over to the mainboards.
 

McDoused

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I'm still hoping for Seth Jarvis. I'm happy to see HFOil warming up to him. I am big fan of his and think scouts are sleeping on him.

His production speaks for itself and good enough for 2nd in the WHL.

I'm gonna get bashed for this but I see him as a mini McDavid. He is always on the end of those high danger breakouts and uses his motor to get passed guys. Hes got great hands and isnt afraid to take the puck to the net, open up the goaltender and tuck the puck home. Obviously he isnt as good as McDavid but I think he would fit on his RW perfectly.
 
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Hynh

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I would rather take a scoring forward with the first and a goalie with the 3rd (assuming the Flames don't find a way to steal it) than the other way around.
 

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I would rather take a scoring forward with the first and a goalie with the 3rd (assuming the Flames don't find a way to steal it) than the other way around.
If we don’t get Askarov in the first(he should be gone by our pick), I really don’t think drafting a goalie is a smart move. If a Blomqvist, Commesso, Iacobo, Cranley...fall to the 7th, sure take a swing, but we have invested high picks in goalies in the last 3 drafts and don’t have a bonafide heir apparent to the crease right now. That’s why you take Askarov if he is there with our first, but with this weak crop of goaltenders I wouldn’t exhaust an asset on goal this year, especially when you see the deep crop coming next year... upwards of 10 very good goaltending prospects for next years draft.
 

Canovin

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Ilya Konovalov is why I wouldn't draft Askarov with our 1st round pick. His numbers in the KHL is trending very well. If it wasn't for MacTavish coaching his team early in the season, his numbers this season would have been very good.
 
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FlameChampion

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Ilya Konovalov is why I wouldn't draft Askarov with our 1st round pick. His numbers in the KHL is trending very well. If it wasn't for MacTavish coaching his team early in the season, his numbers this season would have been very good.

Askarov/Konovalov tandem could be really nice. I just personally dont think hes going to be there for us though.

The goaltending situation is tough to say. I agree with PKspecialist though. Either you draft Askarov or you dont draft a goalie (unless its a 7th or something).

I honestly think drafting a goalie every year like we have the last few years is probably a good idea in theory (maybe 3 every 4 years?). Its too important of a position, and we honestly dont really have a surefire bet at this point in time. Maybe Olivier and Konovalov work out but having my doubts on Skinner and Wells but its too early and maybe I am just too pessimistic. I am not sure that using 2nd and 3rd round picks is the right approach though. None of the goalies that we seem to draft end up hitting it out of the park. /shrug
 

McDNicks17

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I'm still hoping for Seth Jarvis. I'm happy to see HFOil warming up to him. I am big fan of his and think scouts are sleeping on him.

His production speaks for itself and good enough for 2nd in the WHL.

I'm gonna get bashed for this but I see him as a mini McDavid. He is always on the end of those high danger breakouts and uses his motor to get passed guys. Hes got great hands and isnt afraid to take the puck to the net, open up the goaltender and tuck the puck home. Obviously he isnt as good as McDavid but I think he would fit on his RW perfectly.

I saw this thread about Jarvis last night. Scouch could have just tracked a bad set of games or maybe this is why scouts are a little lower on Jarvis.



Sounds like he doesn't contribute much to entries/exits and isn't really the best playmaker.

It does sound like he's borderline elite with dangerous passes and creating his own dangerous shots though. That's definitely something the Oilers could use.
 
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I saw this thread about Jarvis last night. Scouch could have just tracked a bad set of games or maybe this is why scouts are a little lower on Jarvis.



Sounds like he doesn't contribute much to entries/exits and isn't really the best playmaker.

It does sound like he's borderline elite with dangerous passes and creating his own dangerous shots though. That's definitely something the Oilers could use.

I'm not surprised to see that. He isn't a guy that drives play on a consistent shift-to-shift basis, but he's very opportunistic. Every time he has the puck he gets it to dangerous areas. In my opinion, that's why he has better production that someone like Connor Zary does even though he doesn't look as dominant on the ice.

That's Jarvis way at the top there.

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Tobias Kahun

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If we don’t get Askarov in the first(he should be gone by our pick), I really don’t think drafting a goalie is a smart move. If a Blomqvist, Commesso, Iacobo, Cranley...fall to the 7th, sure take a swing, but we have invested high picks in goalies in the last 3 drafts and don’t have a bonafide heir apparent to the crease right now. That’s why you take Askarov if he is there with our first, but with this weak crop of goaltenders I wouldn’t exhaust an asset on goal this year, especially when you see the deep crop coming next year... upwards of 10 very good goaltending prospects for next years draft.
Agreed, I’d rather use our picks on forwards this year.
 

Tobias Kahun

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I saw this thread about Jarvis last night. Scouch could have just tracked a bad set of games or maybe this is why scouts are a little lower on Jarvis.



Sounds like he doesn't contribute much to entries/exits and isn't really the best playmaker.

It does sound like he's borderline elite with dangerous passes and creating his own dangerous shots though. That's definitely something the Oilers could use.

He sounds kinda like draisaitl who only really shoots when it’s a dangerous shot. Hence why his shooting percentage is pretty high.
 

McDoused

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He sounds kinda like draisaitl who only really shoots when it’s a dangerous shot. Hence why his shooting percentage is pretty high.

It's not like he has a bad shot. His wrister is incredibly accurate. He just seems to prefer to use his hands and speed to generate offence.

If a defenceman steps up on him or plays too aggressive, he blows past them. If they stay back hes gonna take that open ice and do something with it.

And I dont really blame him, when you have his speed and hands, you can create high danger chances like that.

Most of his goals come from attacking the net and scoring in close. He can still one time a puck and pick corners but doesnt rely on it. I think hes actually pretty versatile as an offensive weapon.
 
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Hynh

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Any player the Oilers draft this year will have holes (at least right now). Carrying the puck in the neutral zone is a hole a think the Oilers can accept if the rest of the package has potential.
 

FlameChampion

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Be interesting if Detroit wins the lottery. Yzerman probably steal the show by picking Stutzle first lol.
 

FlameChampion

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Mark Edwards said the scouts he's talked to wouldn't be surprised to see him take Stutzle at 1. I wouldn't be surprised either.

Partially joking but was partially serious. It wouldnt surprise me either honestly if teams think Stutzle will be a center.
 

Zaddy

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Is there an actual argument to Stützle being better than Lafreniere? I haven't watched him enough to have an opinion on it. I just know that Lafreniere was in a league of his own at the WJC. Obviously he's a late birthday and has more experience but he's only 3 months older than Stützle. Don't know what to make out of it. Stützle's point totals in a men's league are pretty impressive although he only scored 7 goals in 41 games and had 0 goals at the WJC. Thoughts?
 
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