The Playoff Picture Thread

soothsayer

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Hypothetical: 2 teams are playing their very last game of the season. Both teams need only one point to make the playoffs. They mutually agree to let the game go to overtime, thereby putting them both into the playoffs. What does the league do?
 

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Hypothetical: 2 teams are playing their very last game of the season. Both teams need only one point to make the playoffs. They mutually agree to let the game go to overtime, thereby putting them both into the playoffs. What does the league do?

If there was proof of that, I would imagine the NHL void the points for both teams.
 

Nostradumbass

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Nix the shootout, award 3 points for a win, one for a tie, 0 for a loss.
You're getting away from the whole intent of OTL -- back before they had OTL, teams would just play safe for a tie and OT was actually quite boring. Once they added in the guaranteed point of the OTL, teams felt it was worth it to push harder for the extra point.

3 points - Regulation win
2 points - OT/SO win
1 point - OT/SO loss
0 points - Regulation loss.
 
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Little Fury

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I dont buy into the team sucks bs. People forget what awful looks like even though it was only a couple years ago. I take this team over that team every time. A couple missing pieces is what is keeping us from greatness imo.

Goaltending being the main thing we just need more from overall.

Yeah a 30-40 goal winger and a true #1D man. Easy, right?

As for the state of the team, ask yourself what would happen to this team if Connor McDavid missed any amount of time.
 

MessierII

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Nix the shootout, award 3 points for a win, one for a tie, 0 for a loss.
Why even bother with the 3rd point then? Just keep it two if you nix the shootout. You still have some games worth 3 and some two in your scenario.
 

Little Fury

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You're getting away from the whole intent of OTL -- back before they had OTL, teams would just play safe for a tie and OT was actually quite boring. Once they added in the guaranteed point of the OTL, teams felt it was worth it to push harder for the extra point.

3 points - Regulation win
2 points - OT/SO win
1 point - OT/SO loss
0 points - Regulation loss.

Ok, but do they? Remember they went to 3 on 3 because teams were sitting back in OT even with the shootout.

How about this: keep the current OT/SO system but get rid of the extra point entirely. A win is a win and a loss is a loss.
 

Nostradumbass

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Ok, but do they? Remember they went to 3 on 3 because teams were sitting back in OT even with the shootout.

How about this: keep the current OT/SO system but get rid of the extra point entirely. A win is a win and a loss is a loss.
The difference between Tie games and OTL significantly improved the quality of play in OT. Some teams just saw they had a better chance to win in the SO and would rope-a-dope until they got there. 3 on 3 stopped that from happening.
 

Little Fury

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Because deciding two points in a shootout is ******ed.

Getting points for losing a game is way more ****ed.

The difference between Tie games and OTL significantly improved the quality of play in OT. Some teams just saw they had a better chance to win in the SO and would rope-a-dope until they got there. 3 on 3 stopped that from happening.

Then, get rid of the shootout and play OT until there's a winner. Awarding 0 points for a loss would incentive teams to push for a win.
 

Aerchon

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Yeah a 30-40 goal winger and a true #1D man. Easy, right?

As for the state of the team, ask yourself what would happen to this team if Connor McDavid missed any amount of time.

I believe this team is missing two twenty goal scorers. Not one superstar.

And a healthy blueline of.

Sekera Russell
Klefbom Larsson
Nurse Benning
Jones Bouchard
Gravel Bear
Manning Petrovic

Plus other depth guys like Pearson and Lagesson.

It has no #1 but honestly shouldn't need one.

A couple decent scorers and a goalie are the pieces I think are missing. If Lucic goes back to being a 20 goals scorer we just need one scorer and one goalie.

Lots of potential for some scorers but nothing materializing.

And of course without McDavid the team is in serious trouble but it wouldn't surprise if the team did better than expected.
 

MikeGrier99

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Not sure what we can expect out of Benning or sekera moving forward. I think brining up Bouchard and adding one more legit top 6 dman are needed next season.
 

Gunnersaurus Rex

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You're getting away from the whole intent of OTL -- back before they had OTL, teams would just play safe for a tie and OT was actually quite boring. Once they added in the guaranteed point of the OTL, teams felt it was worth it to push harder for the extra point.

3 points - Regulation win
1 points - OT/SO win
0 point - OT/SO loss
0 points - Regulation loss.
Fixed it for you. Don't win, don't get a point. This would make teams push for regular time wins.
 
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thadd

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I believe this team is missing two twenty goal scorers. Not one superstar.

And a healthy blueline of.

Sekera Russell
Klefbom Larsson
Nurse Benning
Jones Bouchard
Gravel Bear
Manning Petrovic

Plus other depth guys like Pearson and Lagesson.

It has no #1 but honestly shouldn't need one.

A couple decent scorers and a goalie are the pieces I think are missing. If Lucic goes back to being a 20 goals scorer we just need one scorer and one goalie.

Lots of potential for some scorers but nothing materializing.

And of course without McDavid the team is in serious trouble but it wouldn't surprise if the team did better than expected.

I still see Klefbom and Larsson as the top pairing but past that I agree with you whole heartedly.
 
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elmeroil

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I can't believe the Wild lost. Not sure what to think, Oilers could easily be sitting comfortable in the wild card spot....or they could be 10 points out. They keep blowing chances yet here they still sit only 2 points out of a playoff spot.
 

Todd from Leduc

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Only 2 points out of the show boys! Just need to go on a little run.

McDavid will be a game changer in the playoffs.
 

Drivesaitl

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If there was proof of that, I would imagine the NHL void the points for both teams.


You gotta be kidding me. You think the NHL would do that. The hell they would and the NHL already has seen instances of a ramp up of 3pt games among teams late in the season. Kings once missed the playoffs with 95pts because every team they were competing with had a ton of 3pt games happening. Lots of other examples.
 

Little Fury

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I believe this team is missing two twenty goal scorers. Not one superstar.

Oh is that all?

And a healthy blueline of.

Sekera Russell
Klefbom Larsson
Nurse Benning
Jones Bouchard
Gravel Bear
Manning Petrovic

Plus other depth guys like Pearson and Lagesson.

It has no #1 but honestly shouldn't need one.

I see one real top pairing D man in that bunch, a couple of top four guys, 4 5-5D and about 4 guys who shouldn't be anywhere near an NHL roster. Not good enough.


A couple decent scorers and a goalie are the pieces I think are missing. If Lucic goes back to being a 20 goals scorer we just need one scorer and one goalie.

LMAO. Let's see if he can get to five first.

Lots of potential for some scorers but nothing materializing.

Heard that before....

And of course without McDavid the team is in serious trouble but it wouldn't surprise if the team did better than expected

Why? They can't score when McDavid is off the ice, can't defend. If McDavid were out, this team would be the worst in the league hands down.
 

Little Fury

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No it’s not. Losing in a skills competition is not a real loss. They will never decide all the points in a skills comp. It takes away from the integrity of the game.

If the "skills competition" is a joke that "takes away from the integrity of the game" then why have it at all?

If that's the issue go back to ties. If the five minutes of OT are boring, oh well, too bad.
 

MessierII

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If the "skills competition" is a joke that "takes away from the integrity of the game" then why have it at all?

If that's the issue go back to ties. If the five minutes of OT are boring, oh well, too bad.
I don’t disagree with that. I’ve never liked the shootout and never had a problem with ties.
 

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