Proposal: The only way the Sens get better, Karlsson pulls a Lebron

[Stylizer1]

Lebron left Cleveland and they sank in the standings and drafted Irving, Thompson, and Wiggins. It was over a 4 year period but the assets are what made the Cavs a contender when he came back. If we could get a huge return as long as there is an understanding between management and Karlsson would it not make sense to trade him? If Tampa is willing to trade off Point, Sergachev and a 1st for 2 runs at a cup with Karlsson why not do it? Karlsson can come back and we are a lot deeper. Convince Duchene to hold out and give him a good contract. This seems like the only way this team can get a lot better in a short period of time. Or we hope White, Brown, and Formenton are instant big game players.

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[danielpalfredsson]

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[BonHoonLayneCornell]

No point in hoping for that. Lebron obviously had a change of heart way after the fact, in large part because he wants a legacy of being loved, not to be hated by everyone but the one city you play for.

 

[Stylizer1]

Suffering a major loss or significant change in your life, such as the death of a loved one or giving up a dream, can be painful and may evoke unpleasant emotions. These unpleasant and painful emotions characterize grief--a natural reaction to loss or major life changes. American psychiatrist Elisabeth Kubler-Ross proposed five stages of grief that are often worked through during the grieving process. These stages include denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. The bargaining stage may occur prior to loss as well as after loss, as an attempt to negotiate pain away.

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Thing is I am not emotionally attached to him staying or going. I am trying to figure out how this team can make a positive out of a negative.

 

[Benjamin]

Where is Melnyk in the Lebron-Equation?

 

[Stylizer1]

No point in hoping for that. Lebron obviously had a change of heart way after the fact, in large part because he wants a legacy of being loved, not to be hated by everyone but the one city you play for.

Would this not be the best possible out come for us though? Sure if he stays we are still without real depth where as adding some top end talent quickly would result in a more skilled team.

Lebron wanted to make sure he won multiple championships by any means necessary. Instead of earning it the hard way he got the Heat to buy some.

 

[Stylizer1]

Where is Melnyk in the Lebron-Equation?

He is Dan Gilbert.

 

[BUCKLE UP]

f***, so he is going to Florida.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

He is Dan Gilbert.

The only similarity between them is the post-trade bitterness that will happen.

 

[Stylizer1]

****, so he is going to Florida.

Maybe the girl in the back can help.

 

[Senscore]

No point in hoping for that. Lebron obviously had a change of heart way after the fact, in large part because he wants a legacy of being loved, not to be hated by everyone but the one city you play for.

He is also from Akron, so Cleveland is his hometown franchise.

Karlsson has no such attachment to Ottawa.

 

[Stylizer1]

He is also from Akron, so Cleveland is his hometown franchise.

Karlsson has no such attachment to Ottawa.

Why would he leave then?

Karlsson's first home away from Sweden was Ottawa. That counts for something.

 

[Lenny the Lynx]

It’s actually called a Ricky Henderson, not a Lebron. Have some respect

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Would this not be the best possible out come for us though? Sure if he stays we are still without real depth where as adding some top end talent quickly would result in a more skilled team.

Lebron wanted to make sure he won multiple championships by any means necessary. Instead of earning it the hard way he got the Heat to buy some.

Oh if it did sure, its just not realistic. The nba only allows short contracts with options years but i would bet that any contract Karl signs will be for the max so he'd be old and over the hill by then.

 

[Stylizer1]

Oh if it did sure, its just not realistic. The nba only allows short contracts with options years but i would bet that any contract Karl signs will be for the max so he'd be old and over the hill by then.

Why is it not realistic? He doesn't have to sign with the team he goes too.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Why is it not realistic? He doesn't have to sign with the team he goes too.

Gotcha. I thought that was part of the assumption but just re-read the op, i see you meant after next year. Fair enough, its still wishful thinking not really worth considering imo but hey that would be great!

 

[tony d]

Lebron's from the Cleveland area, Karlsson's not from here. I think if traded he's not coming back.

 

[Ace101]

Different situation LeBron was from there he was the chosen one. Cleveland had an over 50 year sports drought of no championships he was expected to change that. He guaranteed a win and got it done. Karlsson might love Ottawa but it's not like he grew up there as a kid and was expected to lead the team to the promise land. If he leaves he's probably signing a long-term deal elsewhere. I doubt he'd risk long-term financial security over coming back.

QUOTE="Stylizer1, post: 141967499, member: 86731"]Why would he leave then?

Karlsson's first home away from Sweden was Ottawa. That counts for something.[/QUOTE]

He left because the whole upper management was garbage. His coach was terrible (got fired by the Lakers right away and went back to Cleveland then they fired him). The owner meddled with the team. His whole career they never got him another star to play with and in the NBA you need stars to win. Over that they never surrounded him by great shooters which resulted in him just getting double or tripled in the playoffs and hoping some scrubs could make a shot. Then he'd get blamed for not being good enough to win and only caring about stats. When the problem was the team was made terribly and he had to mask their deficiencies.

 

[Stylizer1]

Different situation LeBron was from there he was the chosen one. Cleveland had an over 50 year sports drought of no championships he was expected to change that. He guaranteed a win and got it done. Karlsson might love Ottawa but it's not like he grew up there as a kid and was expected to lead the team to the promise land. If he leaves he's probably signing a long-term deal elsewhere. I doubt he'd risk long-term financial security over coming back.

Yes I understand the Lebron situation but I think you are reading to much into a back story here. Lebron's motivations were to win so he left. By doing that it helped the Cavs fill holes. The best possible outcome for the Sens is to hope Karlsson will come back and resign. It's a pipe dream, yes, supposed to be fun conversation.

 

[Stylizer1]

He left because the whole upper management was garbage. His coach was terrible (got fired by the Lakers right away and went back to Cleveland then they fired him). The owner meddled with the team. His whole career they never got him another star to play with and in the NBA you need stars to win. Over that they never surrounded him by great shooters which resulted in him just getting double or tripled in the playoffs and hoping some scrubs could make a shot. Then he'd get blamed for not being good enough to win and only caring about stats. When the problem was the team was made terribly and he had to mask their deficiencies.

Sounds like Ottawa.