The Official Tank Thread III

[SoupNazi]

This is the third coming of this thread.

Discuss tanking here. Keep it from cluttering up every other thread.

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[Filppula]

New Jersey playing Winnipeg, lets hope it's a 3 point game.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Why couldn't we play like this the last 2 games, Like pure garbage.

 

[SpookyTsuki]

Why couldn't we play like this the last 2 games, Like pure garbage.

Because we didn't play our third in three nights. Terrible schedule

 

[jkutswings]

New Jersey playing Winnipeg, lets hope it's a 3 point game.

Thankfully it was. Unfortunately, Jersey didn't get the extra point, and Dallas lost as well.

 

[Bondurant]

The inevitable happened tonight but it feels so surreal. I think I was in 4th grade when this happened last.

 

[HIFE]

We can say "oh well" but it's pretty sad the lack of care the Wings have for building a championship team again. Yet another wasted year for true fans while I'm sure corporate sales remain steady. Signing Miller, continuing to trot out Kronwall- really all the contracts signed last summer were pathetic in their own way, from DeKeyser to Glendening's extension.

This franchise has no direction- just a rudderless ship taken by the elements. The inability to seal up a top 5 pick is further example of any real plan or concern. All the talk about the Joe and winning 20 years ago is growing annoying when you wonder how does this team shake out of the losing culture that's become the norm. Why would we even want to make the playoff's next season?

 

[Winger98]

It might be frustrating in some way for the club to play itself out of a very high pick, but it's also encouraging that guys like XO, Jensen, and Russo are taking this opportunity to make a very strong case for IT next year, that AA and Mantha continue to produce and play well, and that Nyquist and Tatar are looking like top6 wings again.

If all of those guys crapped out there isn't a chance we're looking at a 5 year rebuild, but at something that would be closer to that ten year number. Keep playing hard and hope for some luck on draft day.

 

[Wings4Life]

Check out the Wings rebuild poll:

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2209257

I accidentally voted for option 2, actually want us to do a scorched-earth style rebuild.

 

[njx9]

The inevitable happened tonight but it feels so surreal. I think I was in 4th grade when this happened last.

It really feels like it was much longer ago than that, though I think part of that is that they'd actually made it 5 of the previous 6 seasons before the streak started.

It's been what, 34 years since the team missed the playoffs in two consecutive seasons? I know that's outwardly less impressive than 25 consecutive years, but I think it says more about the consistent excellence this organization has had.

 

[WingedWheel1987]

Check out the Wings rebuild poll:

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2209257

I accidentally voted for option 2, actually want us to do a scorched-earth style rebuild.

Scorched Earth is the only option at this point.

 

[Frk It]

So remaining schedule we have:

TB
TOR
OTT
OTT
MTL
NJ

We should end up with a pretty good pick here.

 

[Red Stanley]

So remaining schedule we have:

TB
TOR
OTT
OTT
MTL
NJ

We should end up with a pretty good pick here.

Want to beat TB and TOR in regulation and lose the rest, helping OTT stay in second, helping MTL stay first (and play NYR) and hoping NJ finishes ahead of us in the standings. That would be ideal in my book.

 

[Frk It]

Want to beat TB and TOR in regulation and lose the rest, helping OTT stay in second, helping MTL stay first (and play NYR) and hoping NJ finishes ahead of us in the standings. That would be ideal in my book.

NJ's 4 game losing streak isn't helping. We are currently sitting at an expected draft position of 7th. I could see us passing Dallas and finishing 6th.

In order to get to 4 or 5 we would need NJ or Van to put together a few wins, and they seem to be embracing the free fall lately.

 

[theD86]

If the Wings pick at #7 they have options. Take the best player or package it with one or two third round picks to move up.

 

[HisNoodliness]

NJ's 4 game losing streak isn't helping. We are currently sitting at an expected draft position of 7th. I could see us passing Dallas and finishing 6th.

In order to get to 4 or 5 we would need NJ or Van to put together a few wins, and they seem to be embracing the free fall lately.

Yeah unfortunately they seem to be actively tanking at this point which the Wings totally aren't so I don't see us breaking back into the top five without some lottery help. I am fine with 6, 7 or 8. We should get one of the guys I like there. Of course we will have to ritual sacrifice some goats on lottery day and hope the hockey gods are pleased with us.

 

[jkutswings]

Yeah unfortunately they seem to be actively tanking at this point which the Wings totally aren't so I don't see us breaking back into the top five without some lottery help. I am fine with 6, 7 or 8. We should get one of the guys I like there. Of course we will have to ritual sacrifice some goats on lottery day and hope the hockey gods are pleased with us.

Many Bothans died to bring you this top-3 pick.

 

[Retire91]

If the Wings pick at #7 they have options. Take the best player or package it with one or two third round picks to move up.

It will take a lot more than third round picks to move up from 7. Maybe not 'a lot' more but I don't see someone giving up a top 5 pick to gain an extra 3rd

 

[DatsyukToZetterberg]

It will take a lot more than third round picks to move up from 7. Maybe not 'a lot' more but I don't see someone giving up a top 5 pick to gain an extra 3rd

I'm not even sure it makes sense to move up in this draft. In this draft you have a top 2 and then a huge group afterwards where almost anyone could go from 3-8, it all depends on the teams preference. At this point we need to hit on as many players as we can so I don't think we should be trading away draft picks to move up if the Wings have the players all rated the same.

Anyways at this point I think the best we can hope for is to end up #4 but I have a feeling we may end up winning some of those games and we'll end up in the 7-9 spots.

 

[TheMule93]

Sit all the vets. Play as many kids as possible. Give Svech and Bert a few games. See what we have while losing as many games as possible.

 

[ChadS]

I'm not even sure it makes sense to move up in this draft. In this draft you have a top 2 and then a huge group afterwards where almost anyone could go from 3-8, it all depends on the teams preference. At this point we need to hit on as many players as we can so I don't think we should be trading away draft picks to move up if the Wings have the players all rated the same.

Anyways at this point I think the best we can hope for is to end up #4 but I have a feeling we may end up winning some of those games and we'll end up in the 7-9 spots.

Here'a link to our chances for specific seeds. Notice that Vegas gets the 3rd seed which means everyone after #2 will drop one spot pre-lottery.

http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHLlottery.html

We're basically in a toss-up with Dallas for #6 and #7 going into the lottery. Buffalo isn't far behind either...

 

[Retire91]

I'm not even sure it makes sense to move up in this draft. In this draft you have a top 2 and then a huge group afterwards where almost anyone could go from 3-8, it all depends on the teams preference. At this point we need to hit on as many players as we can so I don't think we should be trading away draft picks to move up if the Wings have the players all rated the same.

Anyways at this point I think the best we can hope for is to end up #4 but I have a feeling we may end up winning some of those games and we'll end up in the 7-9 spots.

Would agree there i think hanging on to picks marks more sense that worrying about trading up. Was also just trying to say that trading up in the top 10 would be more than just two 3rds.

 

[SirloinUB]

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index..._not_likely_to.html#incart_river_mobile_index

The front office seems to have a pretty good grip on where this team is at

 

[HIFE]

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index..._not_likely_to.html#incart_river_mobile_index

The front office seems to have a pretty good grip on where this team is at

Wow the fat man speaks. This is great news.

 

[Ezekial]

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index..._not_likely_to.html#incart_river_mobile_index
"When it comes to Larkin, Mantha, Athanasiou, based upon what they've accomplished, it gives us hope and belief they're going to be good players in the National Hockey League," Holland said. "How good are they going to be? That's got to play itself out.

"They are three important players, but we're hoping that's just the start."

Wonder which of AA and Mantha is going to be exposed