The Official Horrible Trade Proposals Thread: Part 3, Still Drinking...

[My Special Purpose]

I thought we were discussing trades

Nope, we're re-re-re-discussing 12-year-old goalie interference calls, while disregarding the fact that the goalie interference rule has changed 1,427 times in the interim.

 

[The don godfather]

Hi cane fans bruin fan here. Ecklund reporting bruins are close to getting skinner. I wonder what you guys would be interested in? My gut says Krug must be going the other way.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Hi cane fans bruin fan here. Ecklund reporting bruins are close to getting skinner. I wonder what you guys would be interested in? My gut says Krug must be going the other way.

Your gut is likely very wrong .

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Hi cane fans bruin fan here. Ecklund reporting bruins are close to getting skinner. I wonder what you guys would be interested in? My gut says Krug must be going the other way.

That’s probably a safe bet considering how desperate we are for defensemen.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

So... he didn’t make an effort to avoid contact.

Per the above: provided the attacking player has made a reasonable effort to avoid such contact.

Goals should be disallowed only if:

goals *should* (wtf??) only be disallowed for the following reasons.

(1) an attacking player, either by his positioning or by contact, impairs the goalkeeper’s ability to move freely within his crease or defend his goal;

we agree this doesn't apply to jokinen.

(2) an attacking player initiates intentional or deliberate contact with a goalkeeper, inside or outside of his goal crease

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Does this apply to Jokinen? I don't think it does, his back is to Brodeur, he's watching the play while skating to the front of the net.

Neither 69.1 or 69.2 applies to Jokinen. But this is specifically written as recommendations to the refs' judgement. Which explains the lack of consistency.

What you bolded is an addendum, an exception, to rule 69.2 (edit: and 69.1, now that I read it closely, if the initiation of the contact is outside the crease, and the player tried to avoid it, it's fine).

Incidental contact with a goalkeeper will be permitted, and resulting goals allowed, when such contact is initiated outside of the goal crease, provided the attacking player has made a reasonable effort to avoid such contact

It's saying you can't initiate intentional or deliberate contact with the goalie unless 1) it's outside the crease and 2) you made a "reasonable" effort to avoid contact. If so, rule 69.2 doesn't apply. But I don't think it applies to Jokinen anyway, since his contact was initiated neither intentionally or deliberately.

 

[Chan790]

Hi cane fans bruin fan here. Ecklund reporting bruins are close to getting skinner. I wonder what you guys would be interested in? My gut says Krug must be going the other way.

Your gut is wrong. The Canes have more Top-4 quality D, on both sides, than we have roster spots for them.

The Canes needs are a more two-way F to replace Skinner, a 1C, a starting goalie...and if none of that avails itself, a package of good futures.

 

[HisIceness]

Hi cane fans bruin fan here. Ecklund reporting bruins are close to getting skinner. I wonder what you guys would be interested in? My gut says Krug must be going the other way.

One David Pasternak please, thank you.

 

[the halleJOKEL]

i think mcavoy plus debrusk will get it done

 

[DaveG]

Hi cane fans bruin fan here. Ecklund reporting bruins are close to getting skinner. I wonder what you guys would be interested in? My gut says Krug must be going the other way.

Don't need Krug, we're BEYOND set at D at this point. That'll be Jake DeBrusk or Ryan Donato + please.

 

[GoldiFox]

Skinner for Krejci

Although it’s Eklund. So you can be sure that Skinner is most definitely not going to Boston.

 

[Stickpucker]

Gaize lets trade a guy we drafted in the top 15 who has developed well for a 2nd rnd pick + prospect.

 

[Ole Gil]

Maybe the Canes will go to a 2-3 formation instead of the more aggressive 3-2..

 

[enviSAGE]

I think if you trade only Faulk, you can be happy with a return like Athanasiou+Glendening or Kapanen+1st. But if you trade Faulk and Skinner, you've got to reel in a Nugent-Hopkins to be happy about that.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

It would be hard to be happy about that type of return for Faulk, solo. A Top 4 RHD with 2 years of term is generically valuable enough to net an equivalent Top 6 forward. That's what the team needs in the short-term to offset the impending loss of Skinner.

Unfortunately, when you look around the league, that hockey trade Carolina should make is difficult to find, even if Karlsson is dealt or taken off the market for now. In the event that Faulk stays and rebounds, it will be difficult to find a "quality-for-quality" trade given his shrinking contract term.

The market may be forcing the Canes to make a sub-optimal trade, if they want to move him, that sees the organization give up the best asset in the deal. Perhaps that's why he hasn't been traded yet.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Maybe the Canes will go to a 2-3 formation instead of the more aggressive 3-2..

I’d like to see us try a 4-4, but not sure we have the secondary for it

 

[GoldiFox]

Trying to win games running 3 guys in the secondary could be a good characterization of next season. Gonna be especially tough with Albert Haynesworth at SS.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

I think if you trade only Faulk, you can be happy with a return like Athanasiou+Glendening or Kapanen+1st. But if you trade Faulk and Skinner, you've got to reel in a Nugent-Hopkins to be happy about that.

Faulk AND Skinner for RNH?

Ya, I definitely would not be happy with that.

 

[DaveG]

I’d like to see us try a 4-4, but not sure we have the secondary for it

can always run the 3-3-5 with 2 of the DBs playing more "flex" roles. I think Slavin and Pesce would be smart enough to do that.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Trying to win games running 3 guys in the secondary could be a good characterization of next season. Gonna be especially tough with Albert Haynesworth at SS.

This methaphor is becoming disturbingly accurate.

In our case, we’ve got fantastic CBs but Tony Siragusa at FS.

 

[HappySabresFan]

How does faulk and Skinner for a good steak and eggs breakfast sound. I might even add some oj if you're lucky.

 

[sheriff bart]

Trying to win games running 3 guys in the secondary could be a good characterization of next season. Gonna be especially tough with Albert Haynesworth at SS.

I think the speed of today's game has left Fat Albert behind

 

[Lempo]

How does faulk and Skinner for a good steak and eggs breakfast sound. I might even add some oj if you're lucky.

If they themselves want to come it's okay I guess but please don't fatten them up, someone might want to trade for them.

 

[sheriff bart]

Canes really to make a trade for a mobile lineman who can be the pulling guard in a counter trey attack.

 

[AD Skinner]

 

[Negan4Coach]

Faulk AND Skinner for RNH?

Ya, I definitely would not be happy with that.

I'd much rather trade both of them for RNH than trade them singly for late 1st round pics and prospects, all of whom turn out to be Zach Boychuck.