The Office of Strategic Planning - Tank Talk

[Bazeek]

It's that time of year. The trade deadline approaches and the Wild haven't exactly positioned themselves to make a run for it this year. Word is that Guerin is at least thinking about selling if not necessarily committed to it. Dreams of high draft picks begin to dance through the minds of Wild fans...

Please keep the tank talk in this thread: watching the standings, doing the lottery math, and lamenting those icky, short sighted wins.

It's a valid topic and up for discussion, but as the season wears on it tends to seep into every thread and derail things. There's some wiggle room for this in trade and prospect discussion threads, but GDTs in particular are for discussing the game at hand and the play of the team.

Off-topic tank talk that's found outside of this thread will likely be moved here or deleted.

Have at it.

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[TaLoN]

Overt tank talk in game threads will be moved here in the future.

 

[fentonsbrainchild]

@KaprizovSaveUs are you even going to look at other threads now?

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

I do think this thread was a good Idea. Just for clarification, is tank talk allowed in the general discussion to moderate extent. That meaning, if we're talking about where the team is going to end up, etc. or should it stay exclusively in this thread?

 

[AKL]

As long as we're banning overt anti-tank talk from all other threads too I don't see any problem

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

@KaprizovSaveUs are you even going to look at other threads now?

we may have to start separate, tank-gdts

 

[57special]

When we post, do we have to don Tank Tops?

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

When we post, do we have to don Tank Tops?

why would you wear anything else?

 

[fentonsbrainchild]

we may have to start separate, tank-gdts

my thoughts exactly

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

that was a big loss, though. An absolute must-lose game. will be interesting to see if Detroit can find a way to beat us.

 

[TaLoN]

I do think this thread was a good Idea. Just for clarification, is tank talk allowed in the general discussion to moderate extent. That meaning, if we're talking about where the team is going to end up, etc. or should it stay exclusively in this thread?

In the trade and prospect threads, it can be a natural thing to discuss to some extent. Hard to talk about selling players in trade without it.

 

[AKL]

that was a big loss, though. An absolute must-lose game. will be interesting to see if Detroit can find a way to beat us.

Where there's a Dubnyk, there's a way

 

[57special]

I am also worried that instead of tanking, we will just end up armored personnel carrier'ing. Big diff.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Where there's a Dubnyk, there's a way

It's possible, and It would put us at the 50 points in 50 games threshold we've been working towards. I will be interested to see if a loss there could trigger Guerin to makes some moves soon.

 

[Bazeek]

I am also worried that instead of tanking, we will just end up armored personnel carrier'ing. Big diff.

This team screams half-track.

 

[57special]

Yes, the Wings will be a big challenge for us. Losing to them... that takes a complete dedication to losing. I don't know if we're up to it.

 

[AKL]

It's possible, and It would put us at the 50 points in 50 games threshold we've been working towards. I will be interested to see if a loss there could trigger Guerin to makes some moves soon.

I have very little faith in Guerin making moves before the deadline. What I'm hoping is that we don't go on some streak like the two games we just had against Tampa and Dallas that fools Guerin into thinking he shouldn't be selling high on Zucker and Brodin.

A smart plans for further than just 4 months ahead.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Some-interesting Pro-Tanking ideas here:
players that could be moved, or are likely to be talked about
-Brodin
-Zucker
-Dumba

what teams would make sense for those given players?

 

[CROCODILE SEATS]

Would like to get these rumored trades going soon to really embrace the tank. Hope we don’t sell off Brodin too low though, he’s been great this year.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

I have very little faith in Guerin making moves before the deadline. What I'm hoping is that we don't go on some streak like the two games we just had against Tampa and Dallas that fools Guerin into thinking he shouldn't be selling high on Zucker and Brodin.

A smart plans for further than just 4 months ahead.

I'm not super worried about it. I think Guerin know's that this team isn't doing anything this year. The question that arises is if he'll wait to make moves until the draft. He'll want to put his stamp on the team eventually, but doing it at the deadline would improve the tank

 

[AKL]

I'm not super worried about it. I think Guerin know's that this team isn't doing anything this year. The question that arises is if he'll wait to make moves until the draft. He'll want to put his stamp on the team eventually, but doing it at the deadline would improve the tank

Would also allow us to get better value, when you have so many teams shopping for players like Brodin and Zucker. In the offseason you'll have less suitors. At least for Brodin, anyway.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Toronto's 1st has to be interesting. If we move Brodin to Carolina, I think that needs to be our main focus. Toronto is currently not in a playoff spot, and although I think they make their way in, if the pick is 17th to 18th, that can become a nice player. I think one of Zary, Bourque, Mercer, or Gunler will be available in that range.

 

[AKL]

Toronto's 1st has to be interesting. If we move Brodin to Carolina, I think that needs to be our main focus. Toronto is currently not in a playoff spot, and although I think they make their way in, if the pick is 17th to 18th, that can become a nice player. I think one of Zary, Bourque, Mercer, or Gunler will be available in that range.

Would love to do Brodin for Toronto's 1st+

I do think we should hang on to Dumba until the offseason if/when a top 6 center becomes available.

Move Zucker for best offer, don't really need him going forward.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Would love to do Brodin for Toronto's 1st+

I do think we should hang on to Dumba until the offseason if/when a top 6 center becomes available.

Move Zucker for best offer, don't really need him going forward.

I think a team like Buffalo would be a good fit for Zucker. They need help at the forward position and want to make the playoffs this year. I wonder if they wouldn't be OK moving their first. I think that value would be a little in our favor, but Zucker is worth a mid-1st and they're slated to pick 10-12ish. Dumba for Monahan or Domi in the summer would be my preferred move.

 

[AKL]

I think a team like Buffalo would be a good fit for Zucker. They need help at the forward position and want to make the playoffs this year. I wonder if they wouldn't be OK moving their first. I think that value would be a little in our favor, but Zucker is worth a mid-1st and they're slated to pick 10-12ish. Dumba for Monahan or Domi in the summer would be my preferred move.

I would be okay with adding to Zucker to get their 1st. Not much, mind you, but something we won't miss? Sure.