The NHLPA Is A Joke

[alecfromtherock]

Why do you people jump to conclusions? Goodenow knows more about contracts and negotiations than everyone on these boards combined. Its people like you who are DESPERATE for hockey that start saying a bunch of crazy things to make yourself feel better. The best things come to those who wait. Goodenow knows that the owners are going to have a tough time fielding replacement players in Canada. The owners are going to cave in.

How would the Canadian NHL teams have a hard time icing replacement players?

The strict labor and civil laws Canada has(noting each province has different labour laws)??

Take for instance the Government of Quebec who does not recognise the NHLPA as an official union, therefor repayment players will have no problem suiting up.

I also wanted to add, Crazy Lunatic, your "$2 billion salary-lost-over- two-seasons" crutch, seems grossly overstated. Where are the numbers to back this up?

Here is a site with NHL salaries 2003-2004 and the top 25 player salaries.

Using a spread sheet and the ever-useful QuickSum function I got $1,332,974,890

Based on 2003-2004 another full season cancelled would be close to $2,700,000,000 loss in player salaries.

Vs the $454,766,890(first capped season) they would have lost with a $30 million cap or the $191,101,590 players would have lost with a $45 million cap(using both as the extremes)

If a cap was implimented the first year would be the only big loss for the players, after that its the staus quo.

 

[pei fan]

The NHLPA is a JOKE-IT'S JUST NOT FUNNY THOUGH.

 

[Other Dave]

Take for instance the Government of Quebec who does not recognise the NHLPA as an official union, therefor repayment players will have no problem suiting up.

Is there any way that PA members in Quebec could reorganize on the fly? Could the Canadiens players vote to officially unionize, thus coming under GdQ labour jurisdiction? What happened with the Expos in '94?

 

[Da Game]

Did you see him on TV today? A reporter was following him trying to ask just one question and Goodenow snapped at the guy and rushed off in a huff. He's clearly pissed off and was acting like an undefeated pro boxer who just lost his first fight.

When did Bob lose? There's not going to be a season, and they're probably won't be a season next year as well.

But if it makes you feel better to bash Bob like he's some clown who doesn't know what he's doing, feel free.

 

[NHLFanSince2020]

I agree with the title of this thread.

 

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Is this "genius" still going to be so, when he is embattled with the NBA during their impending lockout next fall?

Pretty sure he was with the NBA from the 70's til '95. He is no longer part of the player's association.

 

[Flames Draft Watcher]

players can spend another year in europe which is an option that NO other major sports league in north america has.

There is a limited number of spots in Europe for imports, a great many of which have already been filled. It's not like another 200 guys can go over there and play at the highest level, that's just not realistic. And if you hadn't heard some of the high profile guys like Alfredsson are actually losing money playing in Europe because they have to insure their NHL contract.

Some players will definitely be feeling the pinch in the next year if the NHL does not resume.

And as others have pointed out, you underestimate how much money the owners would have coming in from other investments, businesses, etc. I would imagine most if not all could survive quite easily even if their NHL team went bankrupt. Go do some research on who owns these franchises and I think you'll come to the conclusion that they are in the far better position to hold out indefinitely than the players are.

 

[Crazy Lunatic]

When did Bob lose? There's not going to be a season, and they're probably won't be a season next year as well.

What did Bob lose? Oh, how about 2 billion dollars of player salaries that they can never get back? Not enough for you? His job was to get the best deal possible for the players and he blew it. He could have had a salary cap deal that was great for the players, but he painted himself into a corner and he can't get out. He gambled all the players money on one hand of poker and the owners called his bluff. Goodenow has lost the players more money than the NHL has lost over 10 years combined! Way to go, Bobbie!

 

[Crazy Lunatic]

Not a three tireed cap they cannot: You people are judus goats that lead lambs to the slaughterhouse. One day it will be your turn to be butchered and then we will se how you like it then.

Then negotiate a non three tiered cap instead of stupidly painting yourself into a corner and repeating "no cap, no cap" like a damn parrot. There was a great cap deal for the players about 2-6 months ago but the owners have gone so far that they might insist on a kill instead of just wounding the union. We're at the point of no return for these owners.