The "next generation"

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  1. wilka91*

    wilka91* Registered User

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    In your opinion, what country has the best "next generation" of players?

    How about Russia?

    Kovalchuk
    Ovechkin
    Malkin
    Zherdev
    Frolov

    :banana:
     
  2. Predatore

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    I am going to stick with Canada, closely followed by USA (producing a lot of prospects nowadays) and Russia. There is an insane amount of talented Russian forwards "popping" up, but I don't see as many defensemen of the same calibre.

    I honestly don't think there will be a lot of changes in terms of player depth, compared to how it is now. Finland could likely pass Sweden, but I don't see a new "World Power" when it comes to producing hockey stars.
     
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    Finland's development program over recent years has really been producing some fine players, and I expect that to manifest itself gradually in future international tournaments.
     
  4. Phillip The Third

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    How about Canada ?

    Nash
    Heatley
    Bouwmeester
    Thornton
    Horton
    Staal
    Crosby

    :banana: ;)
     
  5. Bill McNeal

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    If I were to pick a country with the players most likely to win a scoring title, I'd say Russia with Kovalchuk, Ovechkin and Malkin.

    Overall depth though, I'd pick Canada.

    US has also come a long way, with some promising kids coming up.
     
  6. Cwood2

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    Until another country starts producing goalies at the same rate, it's going to be Canada.

    M.A. Fleury should be on this list.
     
  7. Zine

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    Finland seems to be producing some great "next generation" goalies.
    Noronen
    Lehtonen
    Toivonen
    Tuukka Raask will be awsome
     
  8. Bill McNeal

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    Agreed. Won't be long before the league is dominated by Finnish goalies along with French-Canadians. Anybody can fill me in on how Finland has become so good at developing goalies lately? You can trace Quebec's production to Patrick Roy, but what spurred this in Finland?
     
  9. PinkFloydLives

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    Maybe because of the great Kari Takko? :D
     
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    Could there be a finnish goaltending Guru like the Allaire brothers?
     
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  12. Rabid Ranger

    Rabid Ranger 2 is better than one

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    Canada will have the most overall depth and quality for the forseeable future. IMO, the nation that will come closest in the next ten or so years is the U.S. followed by Russia. The other major hockey playing countries have stellar prospects, but not at all positions, and not in sheer numbers. I'll do a list of some American prospects to keep an eye out on:


    Ryan Miller
    Al Montoya
    Patrick O'Sullivan
    Dustin Brown
    Rob Schremp
    Ryan Suter
    A.J. Thelen
    Mark Stuart
    Zach Parise
     
  13. leafaholix*

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    I'd say that Russia is ahead of the U.S. by a fair margin.
     
  14. William H Bonney

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    How so? Russia has the more dynamic forward prospects, but their defense and goalie prospects aren't even remotely close to the US.
     
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    In what way, because of one or two forward prospects? Neither the defense or goaltending is close IMO.
     
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    The only position that the U.S. has the definate upper hand in is goaltending. Russia's forwards are clearly the second best group in the world to Canada... and I'd have to look over their defense situation, but with guys like...

    Dmitri Kalinin
    Denis Grebeshkov
    Anton Babchuk
    Kirill Koltsov
    Fedor Tjutin
    Anton Volchenkov
    Max Kondratiev

    ... their future on the blue line looks pretty good.
     
  17. William H Bonney

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    I'll gladly take the following:

    Jordan Leopold
    Mike Komisarek
    Paul Martin
    David Hale
    J.M. Liles
    Brooks Orpik
    Ryan Whitney
    Ryan Suter
    Mark Stuart
    Keith Ballard
    Tim Gleason
    Ron Hainsey
     
  18. leafaholix*

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    As would I... but the difference on defense isn't as huge as Russia's advantage up front.
     
  19. William H Bonney

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    Combined with the goaltending advantage it is.
     
  20. leafaholix*

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    Russia hasn't produced much goaltending in years and have managed to finish ahead of the U.S. constantely.
     
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    Phaneuf and Brule can be in that group also.
     
  22. William H Bonney

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    Like the 96 world cup, or 02 olympics?
     
  23. Phillip The Third

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    I nearly added Phaneuf in the original list...

    Brule seems to be awesome but I haven't seen much of him.
     
  24. leafaholix*

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    I don't keep track of where the U.S. and Russia finish in tournaments.

    It would be interesting to see where each team has finished in tournaments both countries have participated in over the last 5 years.
     
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    Add Spezza, Fleury, Coburn, Bergeron and consider that Heatley, Thornton, Lecavalier, Richards and Luongo are still pretty young. I think that Canada is still head and shoulders above anyone..
     
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