The new federal law - U23 players going abroad

vorky

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I believe it is the right time for this thread.

As we know the Russian Ministry of Sport proposed a draft federal law obligating the Russian players younger than 23 years, regardless of their contractual status, to pay a development fee to their Russian clubs in case of their transfer to a foreign club. The law should be approved as early as next year.

The development fee is nothing new in the sports industry. We see the same model with the development fee (training compensation) for U23 players in world-wide soccer. So, the Russians are just copying the FIFA model. Since Russian law can not obligate a foreign club (IIHF should do it), the law is going to obligate the Russian citizens (players). But we all understand the development fee will be paid by a foreign club/league. The big difference, the fee will be stipulated by Russians not foreigners (NHL & its transfer agreement with Euros)

As we know the KHL has never agreed to the NHL Transfer Agreement due to its unbalanced conditions. Even the European leagues & clubs are not satisfied with this agreement, but they can not do anything just to agree because the NHL pays them as least a minimal development fee for this robbery. Europeans should demand the transfer fees based on case-by-case as well. Unfortunately, they are too weak to demand it.

So, the NHL honours the players´ contracts with the KHL clubs (the Memorandum). But Russian hockey is lacking this development fee. So, they will use this new model to get it.

Russian hockey is working on a new system. The KHL implemented the salary cap (U21 players not counted), they discuss the loan market & entry-level contracts. This all needs to be connected with the new law.

Per the Russian Minister of Sports, Russia is creating a complex model with various motivational factors to keep the youth prospects at home. They do not want to ban anything.
 

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I'm not sure why you think it is the right time to discuss, as there've been no updates on the matter since July.

Not to mention that the law itself is still just in the project status and with that kind of tempo I doubt that they will finish it until 2022 as initially planned.
 
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vorky

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The first reading in Duma has passed today, four legislative steps to follow.
 

Kshahdoo

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Yeah, SKA paid how much for Michkov to Loko "as development fee"? About one week of KHL average salary? But I'm pretty sure there will be absolute different money in the law. The problem is what way will they be able to get money from players, if players say f*** you and go to NA? NA courts will demand some precise calculations, if the KHL (or ministry of sport) goes there.
 

vorky

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Yeah, SKA paid how much for Michkov to Loko "as development fee"? About one week of KHL average salary? But I'm pretty sure there will be absolute different money in the law. The problem is what way will they be able to get money from players, if players say f*** you and go to NA? NA courts will demand some precise calculations, if the KHL (or ministry of sport) goes there.
NA court? Why should be any NA (US) court relevant? It is the Russian law, obligating the Russian citizens. US court has nothing to do with it, especially now (after amendement of the Russian constitution & overal development in the world)
 

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NA court? Why should be any NA (US) court relevant? It is the Russian law, obligating the Russian citizens. US court has nothing to do with it, especially now (after amendement of the Russian constitution & overal development in the world)

What way Russian law can obligate a Russian citizen living in NA? The way it did it with Mogilny, Fedorov, Malkin? Yeah, it was great success...
 

vorky

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What way Russian law can obligate a Russian citizen living in NA? The way it did it with Mogilny, Fedorov, Malkin? Yeah, it was great success...
It does not do that. It just says that such player needs to compensate his Russian team. Btw, your analogy does not work. Russia is now in totally different situation than late 1980s or early 1990s.

You need the international transfer card if you want to move abroad. If a player has any obligation towards his previous club, transfer card will not be granted to him.
 

Kshahdoo

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It does not do that. It just says that such player needs to compensate his Russian team. Btw, your analogy does not work. Russia is now in totally different situation than late 1980s or early 1990s.

You need the international transfer card if you want to move abroad. If a player has any obligation towards his previous club, transfer card will not be granted to him.

Russia still has about the same chance to obligate a player, who moved to NA, to do anything as it had back to then. Compensation is a right thing, but how much will it be, that's the main question. If some unreasonable money, then happy to obligate anybody to do anything...

That's what people think about this law. Very telling.

Allhockey.ru: Госдума приняла закон о компенсациях при переходе молодых игроков за рубеж
 
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Russia still has about the same chance to obligate a player, who moved to NA, to do anything as it had back to then. Compensation is a right thing, but how much will it be, that's the main question. If some unreasonable money, then happy to obligate anybody to do anything...

That's what people think about this law. Very telling.

Allhockey.ru: Госдума приняла закон о компенсациях при переходе молодых игроков за рубеж

Many times was there mentioned: Who will compensate parents? Will they assure, that every player will have his place in KHL (VHL) team? That is especially significant in the U23 age group.
 

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