The Never Too Early 2021 NHL Entry Draft Discussion

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  1. BertCorbeau Global Moderator

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    Realized we haven't opened a new draft thread.
     
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    Power, Raty, and Guenther are all candidates to go number one. Power with the edge as of right now in my opinion.
     
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    NamePositionShoots/CatchesBirth MonthMonth #Birth YearHeight (ft)Height (cm)Weight (lbs)Junior TeamLeaguePlayer URL
    Aatu RatyCenterLeftNovember1120026'1"185181KarpatFINLANDAatu Räty at eliteprospects.com
    Matthew BeniersCenterLeftNovember1120026'1"185174MichiganNCAAMatthew Beniers at eliteprospects.com
    Zachary BolducCenterLeftFebruary220036'0"183172RimouskiQMJHLZachary Bolduc at eliteprospects.com
    Xavier BourgaultCenterRightOctober1020025'11"180154ShawiniganQMJHLXavier Bourgault at eliteprospects.com
    Corson CeulemansDefensemanRightMay520036'2"188190BrooksAJHLCorson Ceulemans at eliteprospects.com
    Daniil ChaykaDefensemanLeftOctober1020026'2"188187GuelphOHLDaniil Chayka at eliteprospects.com
    Brandt ClarkeDefensemanRightFebruary220036'1"185181BarrieOHLBrandt Clarke at eliteprospects.com
    Simon EdvinssonDefensemanLeftFebruary220036'4"193185Frolunda U20SWEDEN-JR.Simon Edvinsson at eliteprospects.com
    Dylan GuentherLeft WingRightApril420036'1"185170EdmontonWHLDylan Guenther at eliteprospects.com
    Aidan HreschukDefensemanLeftFebruary220035'11"180181USA U18USDPAidan Hreschuk at eliteprospects.com
    Luke HughesDefensemanLeftSeptember920036'0"183161USA U18USDPLuke Hughes at eliteprospects.com
    Kent JohnsonCenterLeftOctober1020026'1"185168MichiganNCAAKent Johnson at eliteprospects.com
    Zachary L'HeureuxCenterLeftMay520035'11"180194HalifaxQMJHLZachary L'Heureux at eliteprospects.com
    Carson LambosDefensemanLeftJanuary120036'1"185201WinnipegWHLCarson Lambos at eliteprospects.com
    Chaz LuciusCenterRightMay520036'0"183172USA U18USDPChaz Lucius at eliteprospects.com
    Fabian LysellLeft WingRightJanuary120035'10"178176Frolunda U20SWEDEN-JR.Fabian Lysell at eliteprospects.com
    Mason McTavishCenterLeftJanuary120036'1"185196PeterboroughOHLMason McTavish at eliteprospects.com
    Brennan OthmannLeft WingLeftJanuary120035'11"180165FlintOHLBrennan Othmann at eliteprospects.com
    Sasha PastujovLeft WingLeftJuly720036'0"183181USA U18USDPSasha Pastujov at eliteprospects.com
    Francesco PinelliCenterLeftApril420036'0"183176KitchenerOHLFrancesco Pinelli at eliteprospects.com
    Owen PowerDefensemanLeftNovember1120026'5"195209MichiganNCAAOwen Power at eliteprospects.com
    Isak RosenLeft Wing/Right WingLeftMarch320035'10"179154Leksands U20SWEDEN-JR.Isak Rosén at eliteprospects.com
    Joshua RoyCenterLeftAugust820036'0"183192Saint JohnQMJHLJoshua Roy at eliteprospects.com
    Cole SillingerCenterLeftMay520036'0"183187Medicine HatWHLCole Sillinger at eliteprospects.com
    Logan StankovenCenterRightFebruary220035'08"173170KamloopsWHLhttps://www.eliteprospects.com/player/556512/logan-stankoven
    Stanislav SvozilDefensemanLeftJanuary120036'1"185172BrnoCZECHhttps://www.eliteprospects.com/player/428002/stanislav-svozil
    Jesper WallstadtGoalieLeftNovember1120026'3"191214LuleaSWEDENhttps://www.eliteprospects.com/player/394724/jesper-wallstedt
    Sebastian CossaGoalieLeftNovember1120026'4"194212EdmontonWHLhttps://www.eliteprospects.com/player/476602/sebastian-cossa
    Benjamin GaudreauGoalieLeftJanuary120036'2"189165SarniaOHLhttps://www.eliteprospects.com/player/475275/benjamin-gaudreau
    Tristan LennoxGoalieLeftOctober1020026'4"193190SaginawOHLhttps://www.eliteprospects.com/player/397862/tristan-lennox
    Sean BehrensDefensemanLeftMarch320035'08"173172USA U18USDPhttps://www.eliteprospects.com/player/464775/sean-behrens
    Isaac BelliveauDefensemanLeftNovember1120026'0"183172RimouskiQMJHLhttps://www.eliteprospects.com/player/340655/isaac-belliveau
    Dylan DukeCenterLeftMarch320035'9"175168USA U18USDPhttps://www.eliteprospects.com/player/512163/dylan-duke
    Zachary DeanCenterLeftJanuary120035'11"180168GatineauQMJHLhttps://www.eliteprospects.com/player/492218/zach-dean
    Conner RouletteLeft WingLeftMay520035'11"180161SeattleWHLhttps://www.eliteprospects.com/player/483386/conner-roulette
    Brett HarrisonCenterLeftJune620036'1"185172OshawaOHLhttps://www.eliteprospects.com/player/529247/brett-harrison
    Matthew KniesCenterLeftOctober1020026'2"188205Tri-CityUSHLhttps://www.eliteprospects.com/player/292083/matthew-knies
    Samu TuomaalaLeft WingRightJanuary120035'10"177165KarpatFINLANDhttps://www.eliteprospects.com/player/499422/samu-tuomaala
    Peter ReynoldsCenterLeftJanuary120035'10"178168Saint JohnQMJHLhttps://www.eliteprospects.com/player/461966/peter-reynolds
    Oskar OlaussonLeft Wing/Right WingLeftNovember1120026'2"187181HV71 U20SWEDEN-JR.https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/430916/oskar-olausson
    Anton OlssonDefensemanLeftJanuary120036'1"185183Malmo U20SWEDEN-JR.https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/420461/anton-olsson
     
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    With a name like Power, he better be first overal. His life would be be complete.
     
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    Need to get jesper wallstadt
     
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    There are much better goalie prospects in 2021 than in 2020. Probably would be a good idea to get another guy.

    Wallstadt should go really high, but we should be able to get a guy like Lennox, Gaudreau, Cossa, etc. and they should be better options than Akhtyamov. Plus it gives a guy who can come to the AHL when guys like Woll and Scott are likely ready to move up or move on, where Akhtyamov likely does not come over for like 4 or 5 years.
     
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    I don't think Raty is at that level right now.

    One of Power, Guenther, or Clarke will go 1st overall. My money is on Power. He's going to be an incredible defenseman once he hits his prime and fills out.
     
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    It will be interesting to see how this draft is scouted with all that is going on. I feel like certain teams could really screw themselves while others could come out with legendary crops due to savvy scouting. Or luck.

    I also wonder if, it seems like scouting this draft seems like such a crapshoot as the year drags on, if teams use this year to trade picks.

    I am kind of happy the Leafs loaded up this year, even if it was a lot of late picks. If the draft truly is tough to scout, at least we filled up the pool this year.
     
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    Yeah he’s the favourite right now. Let’s see how well he does at the NCAA level next season.
     
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    This draft is loaded with potential high impact defensemen. I would not mind grabbing one of them.
     
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    Yep. The draft is normally a bit of a crapshoot (after approx the top ten or so) but this year will be even more so with the shortened or even non existent junior season in North America at least. For those that follow the prospects more closely how does this draft rate in terms of strength say compared to this past year and is it heavier in forwards?..defence men?..goalies?...Thanks in advance...
     
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    I don't think Clarke will stay in the running. It's going to likely be between Power, Johnson and Guenther. Although, its very wide open, and someone who isn't in the top 10 or so could emerge like Hischier did in 2017. It's a pretty weak draft at the top similar to how 2017 was viewed, which should make it easier for guys to move up like Hischier, Makar, Heiskanen, and Glass did that year. Although, with so much uncertainty about guys even playing it is very hard to tell what is going to happen (when its already almost impossible in-general). This draft doesn't have a clear cut #1 like some previous drafts who can likely hold his spot such as McDavid, Matthews, Dahlin, or Lafreniere.
     
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    Sens fan here. I think you guys may love this draft more as it has more D prospects. It’s going to be interesting to say the least.

    Muzzin
    Reilly
    Sandin
    Liljegren
    Brodie
    1st round pick
     
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    Use the 1st at the Trade Deadline
     
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    No Power, hm.
     
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    Interesting that he has Wallstedt at 3. He must view him and Askarov in a pretty similar light.
     
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    Lysell is not a top 10 pick at this point.

    There is a legit chance he is not even in the top 3 Swedes in this draft (Edvinsson, Wallstadt, Eklund are all likely better) and depending on your sentiments about Rosen and Olsson, he could even end up outside the top 5 in terms of Swedes by the end of the year.
     
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    I've been posting a lot of Bader since/before the draft because I find his model interesting. He did an exercise to test his model between 2009-2018 where he picked in a specific spot each season based on his (imaginary) team improving, didn't take goalies, and never really went positionally unless they were identical rank with lots of F/D taken prior.

    He came away with a ~45% rate of 200+ game NHLers also having 6 guys being 100+ GP players (league average is 26% for 200GP+). Of his picks he had a 14% star rate with 5% of guys also trending towards being stars.

    Although his model has significant flaws (Lack of C, D, G - definition of stars) it's an extremely interesting read that shows its arguably better than any teams scouting over a 10 year period.

    What Could Have Been: A Decade Of Drafting With Hockey Prospecting
     
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    The OHL meetings revealed the following today;



    SO some questions.

    1. Will Scouts be allowed at the games? If not, will all games be taped at multiple angles, for scouts?
    2. To what degree, will scouts have a book, on players a year before their draft?
    3. Clearly, the Euros are going to have an advantage, and be more scouted here.

    I can't recall a draft, with such little hype for it... I know it's a year away, yet from the 2022 crop, Lambert, Savoie, Wright are all pretty big names already, and 2021.... not the same... You never know how prospects emerge though, and as I learn more, I'm liking what I see from Power.
     
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    Damn, OHL players will go almost a year between games. Glad we picked players from active leagues.
     
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    Not sure OHL players have any other option before the season finally gets going.
     
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    Really sucks since a lot of the top goalies are likely coming from the WHL/OHL this year. The QMJHL has nothing unless undersized Swiss-Canadian Noah Patenaude generates some buzz or William Rousseau starts playing (at all, and of course, playing well). Fabio Iacobo is an OA but I think 2020 was his best shot to get drafted barring having an elite season.
     
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    Has a Finn ever gone #1 overall? Where all the Germans from the much vaulted DEL?
     
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