ConnorMcMullet
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- Jun 10, 2017
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One scout had Rossi at 18th
Bob McKenzie's rankings (average ranking of I believe ten NHL scouts):
1. Lafreniere
2. Stutzle
3. Byfield
4. Drysdale
5. Perfetti
6. Raymond
7. Rossi
8. Sanderson
9. Holtz
10. Quinn
Rest of the top-93 here
Some interesting rankings+tidbits:
- Stutzle at 2
- Perfetti at 5
- Sanderson at 8. 2 scouts had him in their top-3 (!) and McKenzie wouldn't be surprised if he's picked before Drysdale.
- Lapierre at 15
- Jarvis at 18, Amirov at 19. Both guys I thought would be higher and would be thrilled if we pick them.
- Germans Reichel and Peterka at 20 and 23
- Connor Zary at 22. I thought he'd be about 10 spots higher. If he falls to our pick... yay!
- Noel Gunler at 28!!! I'd have him at 10/11. If he falls to our pick... even bigger yay!
- Ridley Greig at 24. You called it, @PKSpecialist.
- Jan Mysak at 34. Seems pretty low.
- Zion Nybeck at 73! If he's available for our 3rd that could be a home-run pick.
- Martin Chromiak at 75. I expected him at least 40 spots higher.
I really don't see what scouts see in Guhle.
Guys who aren't good in transition at the junior level almost never just suddenly improve at it at the next level.
You're very likely getting a defensive defenseman with limited possession or offensive abilities.
It scares me that he is ranked 14th. Schneider at 17th also scares me. Meanwhile O'Rourke is all the way down at 37.
I think it's more that the scouts have less to go off of with no playoffs, U18s, etc. Rankings are all over the place and there's no real consensus.I just noticed that it said two of the ten scouts they surveyed had Byfield as low as 6th.
This seems like a year where Bob's rankings are far from it's usual quality.
This is a very intriguing question that really doesn't just apply to guys from this year's draft.Any worries about picking a player and then his league doesn't play next year?
They are NHL ready. I don't think it'll affect those guys.This is a very intriguing question that really doesn't just apply to guys from this year's draft.
If the AHL doesn't get going how does that affect guys like Bouchard, Benson, Mcleod etc? How about Lavoie and Rodrigue who were in Juniors last year? They need to be playing as much as possible at this time too.
Teams are really going to have to figure something out to keep these players developing.
Heck a team like MTL has 14 picks this year. Ott and NJ have a bunch of picks early on. I'm sure they are kind of wondering what's going to happen to all their prospects they draft this year.
Both Peterka and Reichel would be nice picks. I have them ranked back-to-back and have no idea who I would take if given the choice between them.
I just watched some video on both of them and I can definitely say I'd much prefer Reichel. He strikes me as a really smart player who knows where to go on the ice and has very good vision. He can both pass and shoot and he's the kind of guy that other guys love playing with. I think he's a really safe bet to be an NHLer and despite already being quite developed in many aspects I think he has a very high ceiling. I don't see why he couldn't be a legit 1st liner.
Peterka on the other hand, upon further examination, I'm not that big of a fan of. He's not nearly as smart. He's more of a toolsy guy. He's more raw than Reichel, although more physically developed, but I don't see him having a particularly high ceiling. He strikes me more as an energetic bottom-six guy with a scoring touch at the NHL level, if he even makes it that far.
I don't think it's a coincidence at all that Reichel had more than twice the amount of points in the same amount of games in the DEL. His game is well suited to the pro level whereas Peterka will have to really work hard on getting his tools to an elite level if he wants to have an impact. If he was 6'3 I think I'd have more time for him but standing at 5'11 he's gonna have a tough time I think. I don't see any area of his game that is immediately obvious that it would stand out at the NHL level.
I'd actually rank the two of them quite far apart I think. I don't have a list but Peterka I probably would only take as a 2nd round flyer while Reichel is probably close to being a top15 pick, which incidentally is exactly where HockeyProspect has him ranked. Based on the limited footage I've seen I'd be very happy if Reichel was the Oilers pick. I think he'd look very good on either of our top two lines.
I agree with your take on Reichel. Very high-level thinker that can do it all offensively. Creative passer with underrated shot, and, considering his age, has got lots of room to improve. Size and strength is holding him back now but that only makes what he's done in the DEL more impressive. Those are also areas he can obviously improve in over time. I like his effort level and defensive ability as well, so definitely a tempting option for our pick.I just watched some video on both of them and I can definitely say I'd much prefer Reichel. He strikes me as a really smart player who knows where to go on the ice and has very good vision. He can both pass and shoot and he's the kind of guy that other guys love playing with. I think he's a really safe bet to be an NHLer and despite already being quite developed in many aspects I think he has a very high ceiling. I don't see why he couldn't be a legit 1st liner.
Peterka on the other hand, upon further examination, I'm not that big of a fan of. He's not nearly as smart. He's more of a toolsy guy. He's more raw than Reichel, although more physically developed, but I don't see him having a particularly high ceiling. He strikes me more as an energetic bottom-six guy with a scoring touch at the NHL level, if he even makes it that far.
I don't think it's a coincidence at all that Reichel had more than twice the amount of points in the same amount of games in the DEL. His game is well suited to the pro level whereas Peterka will have to really work hard on getting his tools to an elite level if he wants to have an impact. If he was 6'3 I think I'd have more time for him but standing at 5'11 he's gonna have a tough time I think. I don't see any area of his game that is immediately obvious that it would stand out at the NHL level.
I'd actually rank the two of them quite far apart I think. I don't have a list but Peterka I probably would only take as a 2nd round flyer while Reichel is probably close to being a top15 pick, which incidentally is exactly where HockeyProspect has him ranked. Based on the limited footage I've seen I'd be very happy if Reichel was the Oilers pick. I think he'd look very good on either of our top two lines.
This is a very intriguing question that really doesn't just apply to guys from this year's draft.
If the AHL doesn't get going how does that affect guys like Bouchard, Benson, Mcleod etc? How about Lavoie and Rodrigue who were in Juniors last year? They need to be playing as much as possible at this time too.
Teams are really going to have to figure something out to keep these players developing.
Heck a team like MTL has 14 picks this year. Ott and NJ have a bunch of picks early on. I'm sure they are kind of wondering what's going to happen to all their prospects they draft this year.
I think if the NHL plays next year they'll find a way to get their AHL teams playing, even if it's more akin to a series of local tournaments instead of a proper season. Maybe even a "double feature" AHL then NHL if arenas still can't host events with fans. That's why I think kids like Reichel would have the tiebreaker over some others. If the DEL doesn't play then he has the option of the AHL.This is a very intriguing question that really doesn't just apply to guys from this year's draft.
If the AHL doesn't get going how does that affect guys like Bouchard, Benson, Mcleod etc? How about Lavoie and Rodrigue who were in Juniors last year? They need to be playing as much as possible at this time too.
Teams are really going to have to figure something out to keep these players developing.
Heck a team like MTL has 14 picks this year. Ott and NJ have a bunch of picks early on. I'm sure they are kind of wondering what's going to happen to all their prospects they draft this year.
So draft is on June26? That's dumb
If lotto is won by 8-15 positioned team they may tank on purpose to lose the play-in games.
2020 NHL Draft Lottery procedure
It would still be dumb to announce which qualifier team won the lotto.No team would throw away a chance at the Cup for a draft pick. This isn’t even remotely a concern.
It would still be dumb to announce which qualifier team won the lotto.
If it qualifier team A then it is pretty much staying safe and resting your player while picking up Lafreniere vs trying ur best to beat PIT just to make the playoffs in a year where u r sellers.
Habs would be better off skipping out on these hub cities, staggered practices, daily tests circuis and just fold.