The Myth about Matthews Swiss League Production

[tony135420]

Let me begin by saying I truly believe, should he be selected 1st overall (but let's be honest it makes total sense he is), he will be in a Leaf uniform next year. And I fully expect he'll have an impact as the season goes on and he learns Babcock's system and contend for rookie of the year.

But in several threads about him, I've seen his stats from last year compared to that of NHL superstars from the lockout year that played in the Swiss league.

Can we stop doing this please??

The Swiss league from last year is not the Swiss league from the lockout year. That league had several big name player playing in it.

Again don't get me wrong, he's a potential franchise player and we'd be lucky to have him. But when I see the comparisons, it makes me laugh.

Anyways that's just my little rant

Ahh...I feel better now

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[Damisoph]

Were all these guys shutdown D? How much of an impact would these NHL superstars have on someone's offensive production?

I agree, his Swiss League's production has to be taken with a grain of salt.

 

[Woodman19]

Was this worthy of its own thread?

 

[ACC1224]

Let me begin by saying I truly believe, should he be selected 1st overall (but let's be honest it makes total sense he is), he will be in a Leaf uniform next year. And I fully expect he'll have an impact as the season goes on and he learns Babcock's system and contend for rookie of the year.

But in several threads about him, I've seen his stats from last year compared to that of NHL superstars from the lockout year that played in the Swiss league.

Can we stop doing this please??

The Swiss league from last year is not the Swiss league from the lockout year. That league had several big name player playing in it.

Again don't get me wrong, he's a potential franchise player and we'd be lucky to have him. But when I see the comparisons, it makes me laugh.

Anyways that's just my little rant

Ahh...I feel better now

For relevance, wouldn't have made more sense to just quote one of those posts?

 

[Kelly]

Wouldn't adding high octane offensive players increase league scoring? Most of these players played together too, I remember there was a limit, but it was 2 or 3 iirc.

 

[Willie Oree]

Was this worthy of its own thread?

 

[Smif]

I agree, the NHL'ers went there to stay in shape. That's about it.

It's still a really good league though.

 

[VictorLustig]

Same goalies and same defense. It's not like the NLA was full of NHL players, roughly ~1-2 forwards per team and some of them only played a handful of games..

A difference in league strength is not the reason Matthews was able to score more than those NHL stars. There are other reasons for that.

 

[SprDaVE]

k...

 

[tony135420]

Probably didn't need its own thread. Sorry if it bothered anyone, feel free to close or merge it

 

[KapG]

Probably didn't need its own thread. Sorry if it bothered anyone, feel free to close or merge it

Don't take it personally lol

Lots of salty people around here (myself included sometimes hahahah)

 

[Stand Witness]

For relevance, wouldn't have made more sense to just quote one of those posts?

Well...

I made one post where in response to the idea that Matthews should start in the AHL by posting the production of NHL players in the NLA. So if its based around my post then it was taken completely out of context.

Other than that I have seen nothing.

 

[WillTheThrill]

The league is just as good as the AHL or better and Matthews dominated it.

 

[ACC1224]

Well...

I made one post where in response to the idea that Matthews should start in the AHL by posting the production of NHL players in the NLA. So if its based around my post then it was taken completely out of context.

Other than that I have seen nothing.

That's what I meant about relevance. I'm sure most don't really understand the context.

 

[Leafsman]

Haters going to hate!!! He produced - end of story!

The door swings both ways!

He may be playing against lesser defense, but also playing then along side a lesser offense.

The lockout year also had better players to set up plays and create opportunities.

 

[TheLeastOfTheBunch]

Same goalies and same defense. It's not like the NLA was full of NHL players, roughly ~1-2 forwards per team and some of them only played a handful of games..

A difference in league strength is not the reason Matthews was able to score more than those NHL stars. There are other reasons for that.

Yup. A few NHL superstars in one season doesn't make it a tougher league to score in compared to another season.

 

[zeke]

OP is correct. (Also in retrospect Barkov's production that year looks even more impressive when factoring the nhl competition).

Also remember:

Age 18

W.Nylander #6ppg in SHL
A.Matthews #4ppg in NLA

 

[Joey Hoser]

Also remember:

Age 18

W.Nylander #6ppg in SHL
A.Matthews #4ppg in NLA

Can you provide some context here? That comparison doesn't mean anything to me. I don't even know what NLA is.

 

[canary]

Can you provide some context here? That comparison doesn't mean anything to me. I don't even know what NLA is.

The NLA is what this entire thread is about.

 

[zeke]

Can you provide some context here? That comparison doesn't mean anything to me. I don't even know what NLA is.

SHL - Swedish league
NLA - Swiss league

(Swedish league is better, btw).

 

[Stand Witness]

OP is correct. (Also in retrospect Barkov's production that year looks even more impressive when factoring the nhl competition).

Also remember:

Age 18

W.Nylander #6ppg in SHL
A.Matthews #4ppg in NLA

Sure looking at the stats might make them seem closer to each other but Matthews is on another level. More complete game, skill level at worst is the same, two-way, and he brings the size to go along with it.

 

[Warden of the North]

Doesnt need its own thread