Not to nitpick but Bure never got a chance to score 17 goals in three post seasons.
true, but he didn't do it once and i think you could argue that he had the chance in '94. but like i said earlier in this thread, i'd much rather celebrate bure for being the great goal scorer that he was than badmouth him for not being as great as bossy.
i'm as big of a bure fan as there is. i abstained from chiming in on the '00 hart trophy thread, but i maintain that very little separated him, pronger, and jagr that year and that he was my pick for the hart then, and looking back i still think it's defensible.
BUT-- i don't see how anyone could argue that bure was equal to bossy in goal scoring.
the raw finishes-- bossy: 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 5, 7; bure: 1, 1, 1, 3, 5
the finishes if you take out unreasonable competition (i.e., gretzky)-- bossy: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 5, 6
the finishes if you take out gretzky and kurri-- bossy: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 5, 5
it is incredible that every year bure played more than 70 games he finished top five in goals. i think that stat is going to stand the test of time as something only two people have ever done (ovechkin was there with them until this season). that second person of course is bossy, and he played eight years with more than 70 games. plus he finished 7th the year he only played 63 games (and 5th if you take out gretzky and kurri).
and the teammates argument goes out the window when you look at the season trottier was hurt and bossy put up 58 goals (3rd behind gretzky and kurri) while carrying brent sutter and john tonelli to career seasons (both hit 40 goals, 100 points for the only time that year).
career against career, it's bossy easily.
prime against prime, it's still bossy easily.
peak against peak, now we're getting closer.
i'm too young to have seen bossy in his prime, i only know the legend of bossy destroying the canucks in '82. you heard richard brodeur talk about bossy and he still seems shellshocked thirty years later. i remember he said once in an interview, "by the time you see the number 22 on his gloves, the puck was already in the back of the net."
but i saw bure's entire career. i've seen him shut down in a playoff series by scott stevens, and i've seen him shut down by alexei zhitnik (and that sounds bad, but zhitnik played out of his mind that series). and bure could do basically whatever he wanted at the WJC the year he was captain, but he had to settle for silver because he was shut down by kris draper in the final game against canada. i'm sure there were times bossy was shut down by someone in big games too, i just never saw it. can one of the older guys chime in? still his playoff track record suggests that he was harder to shut down.
also, in terms of cross-era comparison, i always heard so i take it to be true that bossy at his peak was a better goal scorer than brett hull at his peak. i saw hull's peak. to my eyes, pavel was one of the finest goal scorers i've ever seen and in terms of pure goal scoring i would put '94 or '00 bure a bit ahead of ovechkin to date. but bure wasn't quite as unstoppable as hull, at least in terms of pure goal scoring. bure's '94 won more, but even though hull couldn't score his way to the third round, he absolutely lit up playoff series at his 70-80 goal peak. so it stands to reason that if hull was slightly above bure, and bossy was above hull, that peak vs. peak bossy was above bure.