Bomber0104
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I've mentioned that in the past as well, seems pretty apparent if you watch all season with eyes wide open.
So now we are excusing Kessel's terrible play with a make-believe injury?
This place sometimes..
I've mentioned that in the past as well, seems pretty apparent if you watch all season with eyes wide open.
It wasn't even the worst trade we had made with Boston in a 5-6 year span.
Rask for Raycroft was worse.
In the Kessel trade, we got a guy who finished 6th in scoring.
In the Rask trade, we traded a quality #1 goalie for a train-wreck of a goalie who you could easily argue cost us a playoff birth or more.
Reality...
Dougie Hamilton (rookie) : 11 points in 19 games (47 point pace)
Tyler Seguin (3rd year) : 15 points in 19 games (64 point pace)
Took us closer to the playoffs than any other season Kessel was with us.
Never factored into them winning the Cup at all. Boston wins the Cup with or without Rask on the bench.
If Seguin doesn't light up Tampa they don't advance...I'd say that's pretty integral.
16 games to win the Cup and Seguin personally grabs 1....yet not integral...
Great minds think alike. Cheers.
Yeah, I think it's pretty obvious. Probably ribs injury or something, but he tries to hold the fort as we are in PO position right now and losing him would hurt the team badly.
So you can but I can't?
Do both of Hamilton and Seguin play injured too? Why Boston media is not on their case for such a lackluster production? For playing such a sheltered minutes Seguin cannot even outproduce rookie in Kardi? Pfrrrrrr....
So now we are excusing Kessel's terrible play with a make-believe injury?
This place sometimes..
Note the words "quite possibly"...i.e. it's in the realm of possibilities.
You on the other hand seem to know exactly what Kessel is and isn't going to do for us in the future with such absolute statements like the Rask trade is worse than the Kessel one.
That's like saying in 2007 that the Raycroft trade is NOT worse than the Ron Francis trade because Raycroft is an NHL goalie and Rask is just a backup goalie.
That's pretty much exactly what you're saying here...but since we humans can't see into the future...statements like these are really pointless.
In the meantime, we can call the Kessel trade a disaster, with potential to get worse.
Raycroft didn't take us anywhere. As I just said his save percentage was like .890. That's doesn't take a team anywhere. That costs them games. We almost made the playoffs in spite of him, not because of him. To argue this is absurd. He was terrible and you know it.
Who cares? I never argued that. He's still a very good goalie.
Being integral would imply you are a major factor a lot more often then once every 16 games.
He's not injured.
This is fiction.
Don't shake your head. If you cannot see drastic difference between how Kessel played in the beginning of the season and last few games you should restrain yourself from providing your opinions on hockey at all. That is because you have absolutely no credibility as a result.
You don't know, but probably wrong. But what about Kadri argument? Do you agree that playing sheltered minutes on Cup winning Boston team Seguin cannot even outproduce rookie Kadri?
But he was an NHL goalie and Rask was just a prospects...errr...backup...errr...on a good team.
This is what I've been reading here since 2007.
How wrong were these people who thought they can see into the future?
Yes but I also hear he never would have developed the same way here as he did in Boston..he would be a totally different player...therefore its not a bad deal.
Again, this is what I've been reading here since 2007 (check the Tlusty thread).
Oh but he was...playing responsible top six minutes.
You should really be talking to Bruins fans who watched their team's Cup run. Doesn't sound like you watched.
I don't understand how you can fail to see the hypocricy here. I guess that's what I get for trying to reason with people who are still having a hissy fit over a bad hockey trade that happened nearly 4 years ago.
No, he got 10:35 a game.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats....&position=S&country=&status=&viewName=summary
Since you're just trying to argue against things I'm not even saying, and outright lying about things that have happened, I'm going to just bail from this conversation. What's the point?
Don't talk to me about credibility please...I don't conjure up fantasies to make myself feel better about a player's TERRIBLE play.
Yeah, I see. You don't try to watch hockey or think reasonably/critically either. I explained the reasons above and I can definitely talk about credibility here, which you have none of.
I'm probably wrong because I don't buy a few internet posters' unsubstantiated rumor? LOL
If Seguin and Bergeron's minutes are sheltered, I have no idea what you must think of Kadri's minutes.
Yeah, I see. You don't try to watch hockey or think reasonably/critically either. I explained the reasons above and I can definitely talk about credibility here, which you have none of.
So you are avoiding the question about Kadri. Ok. Got it. Thanks for coming out with your opinion.
A huge part of argumentation is being able to discern between statements of fact and statements of opinion which you seem to lack.
So you are avoiding the question about Kadri. Ok. Got it. Thanks for coming out with your opinion.
Seguin is on the shutdown line against the other teams best players and still puts up good numbers. I don't believe that line has been in the negative all this season. I'll take a handful of points less if you are keeping the other teams best players from scoring, it's how you win games. Also it seems that Kessel's game has been trending downward while the exact opposite could be said of Seguin.