The Legacy of Steve Yzerman

[Retire91]

It’s refreshing to see the evolution. But the amount of time needed to churn 80% of the roster should not be like 2 years, and that’s what it feels like he’s actually accomplished.

By the start of 2022-23, we might have the youngest roster in the league…and that could be the most exciting fact of all

When you are building a team almost from the ground up with a strategic and coherent plan yes it does take that long. If you are just signing other team's trash to 5 year deals and veterans playing their last year of hockey so you can "get in and anything can happen" then yes that can be done in a shorter time frame.

 

[Konnan511]

To the people who doubt Stevie Y

 

[jkutswings]

Part 1 of a series outlining what led up to Yzerman being hired and what he's done since:

Chronicling the Red Wings "Yzerplan" Part 1: The Change

It's definitely a rah-rah piece, but it's a decent big picture outline of (the start of) things.

 

[Ricelund]

Ah, what could've been!

 

[Frk It]

Ah, what could've been!

Who/what is this source?

 

[Ricelund]

Who/what is this source?

Sounds like it was Jeff Marek and Elliotte Friedman. I assume on their podcast or on the radio.

 

[Frk It]

Sounds like it was Jeff Marek and Elliotte Friedman. I assume on their podcast or on the radio.

Skeptical of listening to someone with <2k followers, but if they are just relaying info from other sources I suppose that’s fine.

 

[jaster]

This new forum has messed up all my colors! This is an outrage!

EDIT: Ehhh, just as well I guess. I see the OP doesn't show up well with the dark UI. I'll see if I can't clean it up with the new colors so that it displays on both UIs.

 

[jaster]

I updated the font colors and standardized everything. Tried to split the difference so that it all shows up at least fairly well on both the light and dark UIs (I use dark because I value my damn eyes, you savages).

Let the legacy continue......

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I updated the font colors and standardized everything. Tried to split the difference so that it all shows up at least fairly well on both the light and dark UIs (I use dark because I value my damn eyes, you savages).

Let the legacy continue......

I think it would be interesting to add 3 things to add.

1. Total DRW salary/cap space at the start of the season.
2. Names of potential free agents Detroit could have gone after
3. the team's standings points, where they finished overall, GF and GA for the team

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Here's the historic cap numbers.

2019-2020 - $79,969,005
2020-2021 - $73,888,274
2021-2022 - $70,214,490

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

Earlier today (prior to noon UFA deadline) I activated Yzerstealth mode, then this happened:

 

[Henkka]

Put this day on your calendar guys.

On July 13th, Stephen Gregory Yzerman ended Red Wings rebuild.

6 years of misery, 1 at Joe Louis Arena, 5 years at LCA.

It ended today.



Let's enjoy the future journey back to the top of NHL.

It started today.

We will make a hard playoff push at next season. For sure.

Boston, be aware. We are young, you are old.

 

[Game suspension]

Stevie will probably be the GM equivalent of Blashill. He'll just kind of hang around for another decade when he really should be fired.....like now.

 

[izlez]

"General Manager of the year" to "should be fired immediately" within 17 days. I wonder if both of these takes are possibly over reactionary?

 

[H3ckt1k]

Stevie will probably be the GM equivalent of Blashill. He'll just kind of hang around for another decade when he really should be fired.....like now.

ehat

 

[jaster]

Thanks for bumping this, reminds me I need to update it lol.

 

[RED WINGS STOMP]

I will remind all the fire Yzerman crowd, Steve has been through this with this fan base before and turns out being patient provided ultimate rewards.

Besides, since he came back he has had the team on an upward trajectory and still does.

He does not deserve to be fired for two bad weeks of a season.

Look at Harbaugh at Michigan, at one point people were saying to hire him? Who would of Michigan gotten that was any better? Patience paid off.

Conversely, who would you really want running this thing other than Yzerman? I don't think there is a better candidate out there.

 

[izlez]

I will remind all the fire Yzerman crowd, Steve has been through this with this fan base before and turns out being patient provided ultimate rewards.

Besides, since he came back he has had the team on an upward trajectory and still does.

He does not deserve to be fired for two bad weeks of a season.

Look at Harbaugh at Michigan, at one point people were saying to hire him? Who would of Michigan gotten that was any better? Patience paid off.

Conversely, who would you really want running this thing other than Yzerman? I don't think there is a better candidate out there.

Right!

Now...what are Yzerman's options for cheating? Seems like fewer options as a hockey GM

 

[dgk0047]

Stevie Y has done well for the team and has not disappointed in my opinion. He has a plan and has stuck to it. We still need work to get us to the cup but he is getting us closer and closer.

 

[Retire91]

Yzerman has taken the right course for the rebuild which is the long game through the draft and the odd gamble in the trade market and UFA from time to time. Sorry if you are not liking the right way to have handled the situation. There were not any shortcuts that could have fixed this and I am glad we had someone that had the fortitude to make a long term game plan and stick to it, or we would just be rinsing and repeating. The team's talent has improved every year he has been GM, I don't get it.

 

[Hobnobs]

"General Manager of the year" to "should be fired immediately" within 17 days. I wonder if both of these takes are possibly over reactionary?

I don't think you know what reactionary means...

 

[Axel Sandy Pelikan]

Right!

Now...what are Yzerman's options for cheating? Seems like fewer options as a hockey GM

Oh good lord.

 

[19 for president]

I still believe in the Yzerplan even though he has definitely made a few moves I dislike. I think the big disconnect is that people think Yzerman is building to compete soon in the Larkin period when he really isn't.

He is trying to make a team that doesn't have a total loser mentality so that when we have the foundation to compete, we don't lose half those years looking like the pre-McDavid Oilers. I do think the goal is at least playoffs starting next season but we are likely looking at being 1st maybe 2nd round fodder for the next 3 years.

We aren't probably going to be competing for a cup until DBC is gone, Larkin has settled into a 2nd line role and Seider/Ed/ASP/Kasper/Danielson/Buch/Ray etc are leading this team. That's probably another 3 years. If all of those guys develop ahead of schedule maybe we can get there sooner, but this is a team that if it is successful is going to be built around the back end. Successful defensive teams tend to be a bit older.

People will point to the DBC and Kane signings as trying to move out of the rebuild but they weren't. It just was the end of the straight tanking period. The Wings even without those guys probably aren't finishing bottom 5, so there is no point in a tank. If you fall in that middle ground you mise well try for the playoffs because picking 12 or 15th isn't a huge difference most years. And if you've moved into that period you mise well employ a semi entertaining team so that fans have something to watch. Its ultimately still about making money. Kane and DBC sell tickets.

We won't know Yzerman's legacy until we see if he can build a competitive core with and around Seider, Ray, Ed, Kasper, Cossa, Danielson, and ASP. Half those guys aren't in the NHL this year and many won't be for at least 2 more years.

Holland killed the Wings with his 2010-2008 drafts. It's basically Larkin, Hronek, and Bert in 9 drafts; everyone else has been very underwhelming if they even made the NHL. There is still a chance for Ras and Berggy but that is brutal. Maybe Vegas can salvage Mantha.

 

[FabricDetails]

Moar talent plz.