TV: The Leftovers

Hivemind

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He looked exactly like normal Kevin Garvey with a small bit of white hair. The amount of effort they put into aging Nora vs the complete lack of effort into aging Kevin was ridiculous.
 

Adam Warlock

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I thought season 2 was one of the best seasons of TV I ever saw.

I'd rank them:
Season 2

Season 1
Season 3

Thats how I felt about season 1. I was honestly surprised when they announced a 2nd season bc I though season 1 was so perfect it didnt need one.

I enjoyed seasons 2 and 3...but not as much as the 1st .
 

seventieslord

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He looked exactly like normal Kevin Garvey with a small bit of white hair. The amount of effort they put into aging Nora vs the complete lack of effort into aging Kevin was ridiculous.

I agree, and I wouldn't consider it anything worth complaining about, except for the fact that it causes you to wonder if the two characters are on different timelines until it's clarified.
 

Hivemind

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Oh BTW...at the begining of the season( i think it acutally started off the season) they had that odd clip of some family standing on top of houses and praying, then the family stopped doing it and just the wife continued. When did that ever fit into the story? I missed the point completely.

It was akin to the cave scene at the beginning of season 2. It was simply a thematic connection to the season. People who expect the end of the world, and how they react when it doesn't come.
 

Emperoreddy

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Oh BTW...at the begining of the season( i think it acutally started off the season) they had that odd clip of some family standing on top of houses and praying, then the family stopped doing it and just the wife continued. When did that ever fit into the story? I missed the point completely.

It was the story of a very real religious movement called the Millerites and the "Great Disappointment".

Basically this Miller fellow convinced his followers of the exact day the rapture was coming. It didn't come so he changed the date. They sold all their stuff in preparation, and the day didn't come again and the obvious disillusionment followed.

It ties in pretty tightly with some of the themes of this season in blind, literal, faith. Especially with Matt, Senior, and company.
 

Emperoreddy

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I think the best way to look at the end of the show is that the finale was more of an epilogue then a true end.

The penultimate episode was the real final chapter. It resolved the majority of the characters. Showed their end of the world belief was mis-guided, and resolved that all this **** happening to Kevin was really only about personal growth for Kevin, and not some greater narrative of saving the world
 

GKJ

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I was going to say that I don't know if you could say it was an epilogue because it needed finality to Nora's story, but it could've had that at the end of the 6th episode. We could've assumed that Nora went through the machine, but it still would have felt short. This is a show that needed to show everything that you needed to know, and we needed to know what happened to Nora, and in-turn Kevin. It would have fell short as well if Kevin's story ended with him sitting on top of the roof with his dad. It kind of felt like an epilogue because only the first few minutes were in present-time.

It sucks that this didn't catch on like it could have. The material was there for a 4th season, especially if they definitively wanted to tell you what Nora experience, but the jump ahead didn't feel cheap, but just in the last 20 minutes I feel I have a vivid vision of what could've been had they did it.
 
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Kitten Mittons

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Oh BTW...at the begining of the season( i think it acutally started off the season) they had that odd clip of some family standing on top of houses and praying, then the family stopped doing it and just the wife continued. When did that ever fit into the story? I missed the point completely.
That was basically Garvey Sr's story arc. He was convinced the world was ending and was the last one on the roof by himself broken because he was wrong.
 

Carlzner

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Binged this show over the past few weeks, finished it minutes ago.

Wow. What a ride. Just an incredible show, gave up on it when it first came out (I'm even posting on page 1 of this thread) but I'm so so so glad I decided to watch it. I don't think I've ever been emotionally attached to characters like this, at least not this way or not any time recently.

Season 2 was my favorite but all 3 were great in their own way. I think I got chills 2-3 times almost every episode.

Carrie and Justin really deserve Emmys for this season. I mean... ****, the whole cast does, but especially them.

Wish we had more from Tom and John in the final season, but not a huge deal. Pretty clear who they wanted to focus on and finish the series around.
 

GKJ

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About Nora's appearance. Nora had become disheveled and dispondent living on her own, doing that kind of work that she's doing and caring very little about what she looks like since she's rarely interacting with people. Add in the stressors of the presumed events of her life in the time we didn't see, it's very plausible her appearance could change more rapidly. You could already see changes just between season 1 and 3.
 

silverfish

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http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/ben-mcadoo-veteran-giants-learn-1970s-sex-lion-article-1.3361864

HE SAID HIS NAME!

Ben McAdoo tried to motivate his veteran players Thursday by comparing them to a zoo lion that LIFE Magazine once called "the country's reigning sex simba."

Frasier the lion, who died in July 1972 of pneumonia, per Time Magazine, was old and expected to live out his final days lazily at the Lion County Safari in the early 1970s. But once he was placed on a special diet, his virility rebounded in a big way, and he reportedly impregnated all the lionesses around him, fathering 33 cubs in 16 months.

So happy to be a Giants fan today

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Peasy

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So a few weeks ago I finished rewatching this show for the first time since it finished about a year after airing. Didn't get to write my thoughts here because the search function was broken at the time.

But I have to say, on a rewatch this show easily became my favourite show of all time. Not really sure the exact reason why it hit so differently a second time, but it definitely did. I think a large reason for that is that I've grown quite a bit since it has aired and have dealt with a lot more grief so I was able to relate to each character in a much different way the second time around.

The first half of the first season is a bit of a slog and kinda filled with misery porn, but after that I have no complaints about the show. There are so many exceptional performances throughout. Carrie coon, Justin theroux, Matt, Laurie, Regina King, John, Kevin Sr, Ann Dowd, all just completely knock their roles out of the part. It's actually asinine that this show as a whole only received a single Emmy nomination.

The cinematography throughout is just exception as well as the score. Max Richter youre an amazing talent. International assassin is such a fun ride, and then in the season 2 finale when Kevin has to sing homeward bound is just so emotional and perfect.

Im obsessed with nora durst as a character. What an interesting and well written character. She acts so tough and like she has moved on and accepted her loss but that is the furthest from the truth. Deep down she is completely broken and wants nothing more than her kids back. My favourite scene in the entire show might have to in s3e6 right before nora leaves with Matt to use the device. She talks about a beach ball at a baseball game and how an usher destroyed the ball and killed everyone's enjoyment and shes confused why anyone would want that job. And in that moment she is reflecting on herself and why did she want to work a job that was responsible for tearing down the belief system that others have made up so that they can move on with their lives. Its also at that moment that Laurie finally realizes nora had no intentions trying to bust the scientists with the device but rather use it herself. She realizes nora is actually completely broken inside despite the tough exterior she shows to others. The show tackles grief, spirituality, depression, suicide, belief and so much more in such brilliant ways.

This show hit me a way that no other show has been able to. It's a master class, it's art, it's everything you could ever want in a show. Damon lindelof and Tom perrotta are geniuses.

 
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I should do a re-watch, I've only watched it once.

It's an amazing show, but definitely not for everyone. It's heavy and depressing, but great at the same time. The soundtrack is so on point.

It's one show I wish I could watch again for the first time.
 

The Crypto Guy

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Forgot if it was season 2 or 3, but I remember it being the best season of TV for me of all time. Whichever season had that bridge scene with the daughter.
 
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Peasy

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Forgot if it was season 2 or 3, but I remember it being the best season of TV for me of all time. Whichever season had that bridge scene with the daughter.
That would be season 2!


(unrelated clip but still a great scene)

Honestly season 2 is such a work of art. Its crazy how they pretty much did the complete opposite of season 1 and it all worked so perfectly together. Season 1 takes place in a town that is completely falling apart after the departure. People are lost and don't know how to cope with it. So for season 2 they decide to make it take place somewhere where no one departed, and around a family that had no direct loss from the departure. And then to take it even further, they look at how the fall out would be if something like the departure did suddenly happen there.
 

DaaaaB's

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Hard disagree, I think it got better after they ran out of source material and had to adapt
There was source material? How the hell did I not know that.

Along with the other things mentioned in here, the music/score by Max Richter was just excellent. It did a great job of making scenes even more powerful.
 

Peasy

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There was source material? How the hell did I not know that.

Along with the other things mentioned in here, the music/score by Max Richter was just excellent. It did a great job of making scenes even more powerful.
Season 1 is based on the book called the leftovers which was written by Tom perrotta, who was a co-creator of the show with Damon lindelof.
 

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