The kids are doing OK

[JD1]

Update Nov 19/18

Ottawa


Chabot 20gp 5g 18a 23pts + 3

White 20gp 6g 6a 12 pts -1

Lajoie 20gp 5g 4a 9pts -5

Tkachuk 9gp 5g 4a 9pts +6

Batherson 2gp 1g 2a 3pts +1

Jaros 14gp 0g 1a 1pts -2



Belleville

Batherson 14gp 7g 13a 20pts -1 X

Tambelini 17gp 7g 5a 12pts -2

Balcers 17gp 5g 6a 11pts 0

Wolanin 14gp 4g 7a 11pts 0+1

Chlapik 12gp 3g 6a 9pts -1

Gagne 15gp 1g 3a 4pts -3

Englund 15gp 2g 2a 4pts 0

Bergmann 17gp 0g 2a 2pts -4

Brown 3gp 1g 0a 1pts 0

Jaros 1gp 0g 0a 0pts 0 X Promoted to Ottawa

Brampton

Luchuk 13gp 2g 3a 5pts +2​

hey can you add Norris to your list please

 

[coladin]

Kids are doing great. Batherson is the latest to explode onto the scene.

 

[mianjo]

Update Dec 18/18

Ottawa


Chabot 35gp 10g 26a 36pts -1

White 34gp 9g 14a 23 pts 0

Tkachuk 24gp 10g 8a 18pts +7

Lajoie 32gp 7g 6a 13 pts -14

Batherson 17gp 3g 5a 8pts -3 X Sent back to Belleville.

Jaros 25gp 1g 3a 4pts -3



Belleville

Batherson 14gp 7g 13a 20pts -1

Balcers 29gp 10g 8a 18pts -4

Tambelini 29gp 9g 7a 16pts -5

Chlapik 21gp 7g 8a 15pts -1

Wolanin 21gp 4g 10a 14pts -2

Brown 15gp 4g 5a 9pts 0

Gagne 26gp 2g 4a 6pts -4

Englund 27gp 3g 2a 5pts 2

Bergmann 23gp 0g 2a 2pts -6

Luchuk 3gp 0g 0a 0pts 0

Jaros 1gp 0g 0a 0pts 0 X Promoted to Ottawa

Brampton

Luchuk 23gp 6g 7a 13pts 0 X Promoted to Belleville​

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

White rolling along with 23 pts in 34 games, 7 pts in his last 7 games.

 

[DaveMatthew]

What's the expectation for Chabot's next contract?

As a point of comparison, Erik Karlsson won his first Norris in the last year of his entry-level deal, and signed for $6.5 million AAV right after, which at the time, was 10.8% of the salary cap (60 million).

I'd expect Chabot to be in the Norris conversation next year (and this year). Next season, the cap will be 82 million, so for 20/21, it'll likely be between 84-85 million.

10.8% of 84 million would be 9 million/season.

Is that the starting point?

 

[stempniaksen]

What's the expectation for Chabot's next contract?

As a point of comparison, Erik Karlsson won his first Norris in the last year of his entry-level deal, and signed for $6.5 million AAV right after, which at the time, was 10.8% of the salary cap (60 million).

I'd expect Chabot to be in the Norris conversation next year (and this year). Next season, the cap will be 82 million, so for 19/20, it'll likely be between 84-85 million.

10.8% of 84 million would be 9 million/season.

Is that the starting point?

Tough to argue when you break it down like that. I'm sure Eugene would have an aneurysm if he saw your post though.

IIRC, I think Karlsson signed right before he won the Norris (but obviously after he was nominated). It's a small point, but it certainly helps Chabot's case a little bit since he doesn't need to win a Norris for it to be comparable, just being in the conversation should be enough to get him close to that range.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

What's the expectation for Chabot's next contract?

As a point of comparison, Erik Karlsson won his first Norris in the last year of his entry-level deal, and signed for $6.5 million AAV right after, which at the time, was 10.8% of the salary cap (60 million).

I'd expect Chabot to be in the Norris conversation next year (and this year). Next season, the cap will be 82 million, so for 20/21, it'll likely be between 84-85 million.

10.8% of 84 million would be 9 million/season.

Is that the starting point?

Watch him play hardball and want his 11m x 8y deal right off his ELC.

 

[Ice-Tray]

He'll definitely be worth a massive 8 year deal because it will be the 8 years of his prime. EK was going to be 29 when his deal starts, TC will be 29 when his ends (give to take a year here or there perhaps .

Completely different scenarios.

 

[GCK]

Probably in the 8 x 7.75 - 8.25 if done this summer. Higher if he repeats and isn’t signed. Ekblad got 7.5 AAV out of his ELC.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

He'll definitely be worth a massive 8 year deal because it will be the 8 years of his prime. EK was going to be 29 when his deal starts, TC will be 29 when his ends (give to take a year here or there perhaps .

Completely different scenarios.

I'd argue EK is worth his on a cap team and that's more of an Ottawa Senators issue than a Karlsson one, but obviously yes getting the prime years is ideal.

 

[Ice-Tray]

I'd argue EK is worth his on a cap team and that's more of an Ottawa Senators issue than a Karlsson one, but obviously yes getting the prime years is ideal.

I agree that someone will give him a nice long term deal, And he’ll deserve it. Better still, EK will get to choose where he wants to play next season and going forward if he wants to.

It was more just that while an 8 year deal for EK at this stage in his career would deserve some consideration, an 8 year deal at this stage in Chabot’s career is a no brainer.

 

[Sensmileletsgo]

Watch him play hardball and want his 11m x 8y deal right off his ELC.

and if he goes PPG for the rest of the season and next season as well that might be what he's worth...

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

and if he goes PPG for the rest of the season and next season as well that might be what he's worth...

For sure. Just would be a shame if that means we have to move him so soon. If he plays the Nylander card, we could be in tough.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

I am not too worried about Chabot pulling a Nylander.

We managed to make it work with Karlsson so I expect we will be able to do the same here. Maybe not as great a deal as we got with Karl but I don't think it likely that we won't be able to keep Chabot.

UFA is where we get boned. I think a big part of why Nylander did what he did is because he was on the outside looking in with Matthews and Marner in Toronto. He probably wants to stay in Toronto but also doesn't want to have to make sacrifices so Tavares, Matthews and Marner can reap the benefits while he might not.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I am not too worried about Chabot pulling a Nylander.

We managed to make it work with Karlsson so I expect we will be able to do the same here. Maybe not as great a deal as we got with Karl but I don't think it likely that we won't be able to keep Chabot.

UFA is where we get boned. I think a big part of why Nylander did what he did is because he was on the outside looking in with Matthews and Marner in Toronto. He probably wants to stay in Toronto but also doesn't want to have to make sacrifices so Tavares, Matthews and Marner can reap the benefits while he might not.

I guess that's why some have blamed Toronto for almost guaranteeing another lockout. We're not alone in not being able to deal with it if it becomes the standard.

I like to think you're right and we get it done, but if this guys puts up PPG this year and next, then it could get crazy. He's that one guy I could see pricing us out too quickly.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

No where great to put this but.. Its worth a view. Merry Christmas to all.

 

[mianjo]

Update Dec 24/18


Ottawa


Chabot 37gp 10g 27a 37pts -3
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White 36gp 9g 14a 23 pts -4

Tkachuk 26gp 10g 8a 18pts +5

Lajoie 33gp 7g 6a 13 pts -15

Batherson 17gp 3g 5a 8pts -3 X Sent back to Belleville.

Jaros 27gp 1g 4a 4pts -3



Belleville

Batherson 17gp 7g 16a 23pts +2

Balcers 32gp 13g 9a 22pts -4

Tambelini 32gp 9g 9a 18pts -6

Chlapik 21gp 7g 8a 15pts -1 Injured

Wolanin 24gp 4g 13a 17pts -3

Brown 18gp 4g 6a 10pts 0

Gagne 27gp 2g 4a 6pts -4

Englund 30gp 3g 2a 5pts 0

Bergmann 23gp 0g 2a 2pts -6

Luchuk 6gp 2g 0a 2pts -1

Jaros 1gp 0g 0a 0pts 0 X Promoted to Ottawa

Brampton

Luchuk 23gp 6g 7a 13pts 0 X Promoted to Belleville

 

[GCK]

I guess that's why some have blamed Toronto for almost guaranteeing another lockout. We're not alone in not being able to deal with it if it becomes the standard.

I like to think you're right and we get it done, but if this guys puts up PPG this year and next, then it could get crazy. He's that one guy I could see pricing us out too quickly.

With a lockout looming I would try to lock Chabot up this coming summer for 8 years since max contract length will likely be shortened in the next CBA.

 

[aragorn]

Merry Christmas everyone, be safe & have a wonderful New Year.

 

[slamigo]

No where great to put this but.. Its worth a view. Merry Christmas to all.

That was amazing and really well done! Made my day!

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

With a lockout looming I would try to lock Chabot up this coming summer for 8 years since max contract length will likely be shortened in the next CBA.

I would be all over that if he would consider it. That said, we havent given out a long term contract in over 4 years now, we'll have to see if its because we wont or cant.

If he keeps it up at this crazy pace, he's gonna get one of the biggest deals ever as an rfa, so if we could lock him in around 8x8, i'd do it.

 

[GCK]

I would be all over that if he would consider it. That said, we havent given out a long term contract in over 4 years now, we'll have to see if its because we wont or cant.

If he keeps it up at this crazy pace, he's gonna get one of the biggest deals ever as an rfa, so if we could lock him in around 8x8, i'd do it.

Has anyone been deserving of a long term contract in the last 4 years other than EK.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

No where great to put this but.. Its worth a view. Merry Christmas to all.

Wow. The team released a video that didn't absolutely suck!