The hawks PK

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  1. STC

    STC Registered User

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    Uhm what the heck was that last night?

    I'm really concerned about the structure of the PK after watching that last night. In all my years of watching hockey I've NEVER seen a team sag their PK that far into their own net on a 5v4. Never before have I seen the points of a PP be able to set up without pressure at the top of the circles. It looked like a 5v3, not a 5v4. And we're talking about Ovechkin and Green, two of the best PP pointmen in the league! Letting them set up without pressure at the top of the circles led to very predictable results, 3 PP goals.

    If this is the structure to the PK that we will be seeing this year we are in big trouble. That was seriously head scratching bad.

    Honestly, I'm 43 and have never seen that before.
     
  2. No Fun Shogun

    No Fun Shogun 34-38-61-10-13-15

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    Just a bad night, and they still managed to come through when it counted near the end.
     
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    Well the Hawks PK under Q has always been one of the most passive in the league. They just don't pressure the puck a lot. It worked last year. The year before it didn't work.
     
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    Last year they pressured the puck, or if they didn't at least they clogged the middle of the ice to block the shooting lanes.

    This time they didn't do either of those, but no reason to be concerned after one game
     
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    bad night doesn't account for the strategy they employed which was the worst I've ever seen in all my years watching hockey. Not sure how a competent coach could even employ such a clearly flawed strategy. It was mind boggling.

    This wasn't a case of them having a bad night because they got lit up for a few goals. Those things happen. But, this was a much bigger problem based on a horrific PK strategy. They better get their heads out of their ***** and fix that before the next game. A peewee coach wouldn't even have a PK plan that awful.
     
  6. Hawkaholic

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    Fire Q, trade for Frolik, send Kruger to the AHL!
     
  7. Kurtosis

    Kurtosis Trying Not To Suck

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    It was pretty awful strategy, but not something they won't be able to correct.
     
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    Looked like 2012 PK all over again. Passive box.
     
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    They proved last year that they are capable of one of the best PKs in the league.

    Not saying it was pretty, but it was the first game of the year
     
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    First game of the season vs a very good PP.
     
  11. zac

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    In theory this is correct, but with Q at the helm (who is an awful strategist) it's not necessarily likely either.

    When you think of our PK over the last several years the first thing that comes to mind is passivity. I'm really starting to believe that Frolik just did his own thing and when it worked it gave guys like Kruger more courage to do the same. Once it worked I think Q was more apt to let it slide and so it continued through the entire season. One of our forwards needs to take the bull by the horns and put pressure on the perimeter. It's obviously something that isn't stressed by the coaches and why that is I have no idea.

    Also expecting Hammer to block as many shots as he does without experiencing a pretty serious injury is unrealistic, IMO. As much as I hate watching passivity this is really my biggest concern. The idea should be to be active enough and aggressive enough to make shot blocking as unnecessary as possible. We seem to do the opposite.
     
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    RFIP I LOVE CRAWFORD!

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    I used to date a girl who had a .....oh never-mind...:laugh:
     
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    One game. Time to panic.
     
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    I trust the guy who's coached us to 2 cups in 4 years, thanks.
     
  15. DisgruntledHawkFan

    DisgruntledHawkFan Blackhawk Down

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    Not sure if he knows why, but I lol'd.
     
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    Really don't think there is much more to say than this. The Hawks, even last year, have employed a passive box that is aggressive whenever there is a miscue, bad pass, or bad zone entry. Washington played very well on the PP last night, gained the zone well, and took care of the puck once in the zone. Aside from working on preventing clean zone entry, not a whole lot else you can do with a PP as talented as that.
     
  17. BobbyJet

    BobbyJet A new beginning?

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    Excellent post Zac. This team’s biggest concern should be replacing Frolik’s aggressive PK and his ability to read when to employ that aggression. It was sadly lacking Tuesday, obviously…. To the point where Caps PP set up easily in our zone and after that it looked more like a 5 on 3 advantage.
     
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    Give Nordstrom a couple weeks to get settled in; he is capable of doing it.
     
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    In fairness, it's one game, and the hawks didn't play the Capitals last season.
     
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    I haven't seen a PP that aggressive, and not just for one PP, but consistently over the whole game, in years. What can you do when the D-men are at the top of the circle...Hawks needed to stay in front of them and get in the way.
     
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    The PK will be fine, calm down.
     
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    I wish the Hawks would run their PP; might give up a shorty once in awhile but they'd be top 10 easily.
     
  23. RayP

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    It really did. There were 2-3 times when it was 5 on 4 that I looked up to make sure I didn't miss a 2nd penalty. I had never seen a PK collapse that far into the goal like that before. I'd have to imagine that is absolute hell for Crow trying to see anything at all in front of him, but never got a good view of what his sight lines looked at while on the PK.
     
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    One goal was on a deflected puck that Ovi sniped with a perfect shot, one was an incredible deflection. Its not like the Hawks got over matched. They also killed off a 5 on 3 to win the game.
     
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    Again, that's not my problem with the PK. My problem is what I saw with my eyes, and the lack of aggression. Now, maybe it's just because they were on their heels because of how potent the Caps PP is and they were being a little conservative vs aggressive, who knows... But if that is how the PK is going to be going forward, then we could be in some trouble with it. It was far too relaxed.
     

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