The Football (Not American)/Futbol/Soccer Thread: No More International Breaks!
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AdamCalderHero
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AdamCalderHero
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Yup.
Those two calls decided the game, but at least the handball i can see given.
But Griezmanns dive was quite obvious and surprised the ref fell for it.
Not taking anything from France though. Played very mature and effective football.
do people really see that handball penalty as controversial? The replay was 100% clear on it - you could even see his hand jiggle after it hit the ball
cgf
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They weren't that bad. When they countered, it was nifty. DD just played them like he was still afraid of what happened in 2016...while ignoring that what happened in 2016 wouldn't have happened if he hadn't made decisions like thinking that Sissoko was a creative winger...
cgf
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The controversy is over whether it was an intentional handball or not. Not whether it hit Perisic's hand.
CharlesPuck
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CharlesPuck
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Griezzman lost his footing and the Croatian player ran into him. Penalty. He wasn’t diving.
Forcing Kante out of the game with a soft yellow was worse.
France simply was the best team all World Cup. Great defense. Opportunistic offense. Solid team play.
Give me a break, the clown dove. He was on his knees before Brozovic touched him.
The controversy is tied to how VAR came into play there, using the definition of it, it shouldn't be overturned.
AdamCalderHero
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I still maintain theres nothing wrong with VAR, the problem is the lack of clarity around the laws of the game. VAR is shining a light on this and hopefully it will lead to improvement.
On the penalty, its so hard to call because it looks like he might move his hand to the ball, but then you could argue he raised it to help him jump and it was just returning to a natural position by his side. Was it a clear and obvious mistake that needed to be overturned? Probably not
On the penalty, its so hard to call because it looks like he might move his hand to the ball, but then you could argue he raised it to help him jump and it was just returning to a natural position by his side. Was it a clear and obvious mistake that needed to be overturned? Probably not
That's what it actually says in the rulebook, VAR can only overturn a grave error.
Alex Jones
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Truth is nobody really knows what is and is not a handball. To me, it should be anything where the hand is not next to the body. Takes away any confusion
Handball rules need to be clarified. Either go with hockey's high-stick rule and punish every handball (save for maybe the instances when someone is stupid enough to hit his own hand) or go with clearly intentional handballs (like Suarez in 2010) and let everything else go.
As for VAR, I like it but I'd change 2 things:
1. Shorten the review time by letting the VAR room decide. There's no need for the on-pitch ref to run and see for himself.
2. Expand VAR. While the Croats were arguing with Pitana about Griezmann's dive, the VAR room had more than enough time to tell Pitana to reverse the call.
As for VAR, I like it but I'd change 2 things:
1. Shorten the review time by letting the VAR room decide. There's no need for the on-pitch ref to run and see for himself.
2. Expand VAR. While the Croats were arguing with Pitana about Griezmann's dive, the VAR room had more than enough time to tell Pitana to reverse the call.
CharlesPuck
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No, not really. Griezzman toe picks the ground and then Brozovic runs into him.
And Croatia was fouling hard in the first 20 minutes of the game. That tactic cost them.
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CharlesPuck
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It was an obvious mistake and the ref missed it live. VAR worked perfectly as it was intended.
AdamCalderHero
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I agree theres no need for the referee to run over there. If it is obvious enough to overturn, then they shouldn't need his opinion.
