The Flyers record and player ice times in 3 on 3 overtime

[Curufinwe]

Since I couldn't find the stats online, I have begun to track the ice times of Flyers players since 3 on 3 overtime began in the 2015-16 season.

2015-16: 27 OT games (10 OT wins, 6 OT losses, 3 SO wins, 8 SO losses)

OT goals:
4 - Ghost
2 - Giroux, Voracek
1 - Del Zotto, Read

OT assists:
6 - Voracek
5 - Giroux
2 - Del Zotto, Ghost
1 - Streit

On ice for ES goals against:
2 -Del Zotto, Giroux, Medvedev
1 - Couturier, Gagner, Laughton, Schenn, Simmonds, Voracek

On ice for PP goals against:
1 - Bellemare, Couturier, Gudas, Manning, Schultz, Streit

Total ice time (games, average ice time)
53 Ghost - 31:19 (22, 1:25)
32 Streit - 22:12 (16, 1:23)
15 Del Zotto - 21:55 (18, 1:13)
82 Medvedev - 9:28 (9, 1:03)
3 Gudas - 8:44 (8, 1:05)
55 Schultz - 7:48 (7, 1:07)
47 MacDonald - 1:47 (2, 0:54)
22 Schenn - 1:16 (2, 0:38)
23 Manning - 1:04 (2, 0:32)

28 Giroux - 39:32 (26, 1:31)
93 Voracek - 35:26 (26, 1:22)
17 Simmonds - 23:32 (21, 1:07)
14 Couturier - 23:29 (19, 1:14)
24 Read - 19:49 (17, 1:10)
78 Bellemare - 15:51 (16, 0:59)
10 Schenn - 11:22 (12, 0:57)
89 Gagner - 6:29 (8, 0:49)
21 Laughton - 3:03 (4, 0:46)
52 Cousins - 1:09 (2, 0:35)
76 VandeVelde - 1:04 (3, 0:21)
12 Raffl - 0:56 (1, 0:56)

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[Curufinwe]

2016-17: 24 OT games (7 OT wins, 5 OT losses, 7 SO wins, 5 SO losses)

OT goals:
2 - Schenn, Giroux, Voracek
1 - Simmonds

OT assists:
2 - Provorov, Giroux, Ghost, Voracek
1 - Couturier, Simmonds

On ice for ES goals against:
2 - Schenn, Giroux, Ghost, Voracek
1 - Couturier, Weise, Manning, Streit

On ice for PP goals against:
1 - Gudas, Provorov, Bellemare


Total ice time
53 Ghost - 38:58
9 Provorov - 19:26
15 Del Zotto - 17:09
47 MacDonald - 8:36
32 Streit - 5:31
3 Gudas - 2:02
23 Manning - 0:47

93 Voracek - 39:53
28 Giroux -35:38
10 Schenn - 23:06
17 Simmonds - 22:56
14 Couturier - 20:30
78 Bellemare - 11:16
11 Konecny - 4:57
22 Weise - 4:45
51 Filppula - 4:43
24 Read - 4:32
52 Cousins - 2:06
40 Weal - 1:05

 

[Curufinwe]

2017-18: 25 OT games (9 OT wins, 7 OT losses, 2 SO wins, 7 SO losses)

OT goals:
2 - Konecny, Couturier, Voracek
1 - Simmonds, Ghost, Weal

OT assists:
3 - Couturier
2 - Provorov, Couturier, Konecny, Ghost, Filppula
1 - Voracek, Giroux

On ice for ES goals against:
5 - Voracek, Couturier
4 - Ghost
2 - Provorov, Patrick
1 - Sanheim, Manning, Konecny, Simmonds

On ice for PP goals against:

Total ice time
3 Gudas - 2:24
6 Sanheim - 1:45
8 Hagg - 0:46
9 Provorov - 33:27
23 Manning - 2:36
47 MacDonald - 8:02
53 Ghost - 33:56

11 Konecny - 22:11
14 Couturier - 34:07
17 Simmonds - 11:28
19 Patrick - 5:08
21 Laughton - 0:18
28 Giroux - 27:30
40 Weal - 5:39
51 Filppula - 14:32
93 Voracek - 32:00

 

[deadhead]

Unfortunately, it would be hard to find data, but I suspect the games where marginal players were on the ice 3 on 3 are most likely to be those where the team came from behind and the best offensive players were being double shifted in the 3rd period.

If your top guys have tired legs, they're likely to be burnt 3x3, so it's a tradeoff, do I try to give them a few minutes of rest and hope my marginal guys can keep the other team from scoring or do I put my top guys out there and hope "dead legs" don't lead to a quick score for the other team.

 

[Rebels57]

That Bellemare OT ice time is gross.

 

[Tripod]

That Bellemare OT ice time is gross.

3rd best C option.

Coach had no options.

 

[CerpinTaxt]

Guys, cant talk about players not on the team anymore. According to some its better to just let it go.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Unfortunately, it would be hard to find data, but I suspect the games where marginal players were on the ice 3 on 3 are most likely to be those where the team came from behind and the best offensive players were being double shifted in the 3rd period.

If your top guys have tired legs, they're likely to be burnt 3x3, so it's a tradeoff, do I try to give them a few minutes of rest and hope my marginal guys can keep the other team from scoring or do I put my top guys out there and hope "dead legs" don't lead to a quick score for the other team.

The data is readily available. Shift charts are saved in box scores.

 

[Lord Defect]

Has ghost scored in OT without Giroux assisting?

 

[Curufinwe]

Yup. Him and Voracek combined for a great goal against the Leafs when Giroux wasn't playing the day after Subban elbowed him in the head. Cousins was the other forward on the ice, but he didn't get an assist. Voracek being part of eight goals and not being in the ice for a single goal against is pretty impressive. And Giroux and Ghost were very close behind.



Voracek also got the only assist on this goal.

https://www.nhl.com/video/gostisbehere-overtime-winner/t-277350912/c-40702403

 

[Lord Defect]

I forgot about that

 

[Rebels57]

Yup. Him and Voracek combined for a great goal against the Leafs when Giroux wasn't playing the day after Subban elbowed him in the head. Cousins was the other forward on the ice, but he didn't get an assist. Voracek being part of eight goals and not being in the ice for a single goal against is pretty impressive. And Giroux and Ghost were very close behind.



Voracek also got the only assist on this goal.

https://www.nhl.com/video/gostisbehere-overtime-winner/t-277350912/c-40702403

That's why it was so odd to see him make such a careless turnover in OT in the preseason game against Boston.

 

[Curufinwe]

I have the stats up to date now except for the average ice times for 16-17.

The funniest thing I noticed while compiling the 16-17 stats was that Manning only got one shift in OT all season, and it ended up in a goal against.

 

[Curufinwe]

This thread is really easy (and fun) to update when the Flyers win in the first 30 seconds of OT.

2017-18: 12 OT games (4 OT wins, 5 OT losses, 0 SO wins, 3 SO losses)

 

[Audible Velvet]

Curu, thanks for doing the work.
Seeing a few of those names getting any of that time is painful.

 

[FatTugboatFlahr]

How has Jake been on the ice for 5 goals against and Giroux has been on the ice for 0.

That's super weird

 

[Curufinwe]

The wackiest stat so far is that G and Jake are within two seconds of each other in ice time, but Voracek has been on the ice for five goals against and Giroux hasn't been on the ice for any. Jake has one point and Giroux has none.

 

[FLYguy3911]

The most disappointing thing about the quick OT goals is we haven't been able to see Hak's 3rd group.

 

[Magua]

51-17
47


It's the logical choice.

 

[JXC]

Total ice time
3 Gudas - 2:24
6 Sanheim - 1:45
8 Hagg - 0:46
9 Provorov - 15:30
23 Manning - 2:36
47 MacDonald - 2:48
53 Ghost - 10:51

Wow.

 

[Tripod]

Still a farce to look back to last year and Bellemare with double the TK minutes.

 

[Curufinwe]

This thread is really easy (and fun) to update when the Flyers win in the first 30 seconds of OT.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Dammit. I want to see the 3rd line.

 

[Sawdalite]

The most disappointing thing about the quick OT goals is we haven't been able to see Hak's 3rd group.

3rd?!?!?!

Dude... with the last three OTs at least, we haven't seen the 2nd Trio. LOL

 

[FLYguy3911]

3rd?!?!?!

Dude... with the last three OTs at least, we haven't seen the 2nd Trio. LOL

Well I think we can pretty much count on Ghost, G, and Voracek.