The Brandon Dubinsky expectations thread

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    Dubois is better on faceoffs, "intensity", defensively with his stick, and along the boards.

    And, arguably even this "defensive awareness".....

    No?
     
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    Whatever that really means.

    PLD is a year 2, 20 year old. If he makes a few more positional mistakes defensively than Wennberg (and I'm not saying that he does), it's just part of the growing process.

    Also, it's worth noting that as a #1C he's facing much tougher competition than Wennberg, so if certain stats make Wennberg look superior defensively to PLD than the difference *could* be attributed to QualofComp.

    Wennberg needs to be given away in a trade or bought out at 1/3rd. Actually-and I can't believe I'm saying this-if the decision had to made today, I'd buy out Wennberg and Nash and keep Dubinsky. Subject to change, of course:laugh:
     
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    Well, yeah. You seem to be focused on One True Approach To The Game, and I'm looking more at Many Approaches Means You're Harder To Stop.

    The fact that he's getting similar results preventing goals and shots against despite a very different play style? Really, the only objection there is faceoffs, because of the obvious "it's easier to defend if you start with the puck" thing, and Dubi is measurably better in that regard. Wennberg does seem to be showing signs of improving of late, altho I hesitate to call him "improved" until he keeps it up for longer than a month. :)

    Oh, I completely agree. I'd put him in over Dubinsky as well, tho, so that's not saying much. ;)

    Do you have supporting data for that? 'Cause I could have sworn I'd seen him out there in those situations multiple times. Not starting, usually (because faceoffs), but IIRC he's usually one of the first guys over the boards in the lategame when a change is possible.
     
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    This is the Dubinsky thread?
     
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    He's become irrelevant even in his own thread. :sarcasm:
     
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    Double-Shift Lasse Just post better

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    Behind Wennberg in defensive statement mentions.
     
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    I think it still qualifies so long as a majority of posts at least mention his name.
    at least, that's how I justify it to myself
     
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    Blue Jackets' Brandon Dubinsky grudgingly accepts 'utility'...

     
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    Dubi expected back tomorrow vs. Habs

    I liked that Stenland didn't seem intimidated at this level, but being able to finish the season at Cleveland isn't going to hurt him any
     
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    Sounds like Stenlund is staying in the lineup for now. Looks like Duclair is the one coming out of the lineup - which is absurd - for Dubi...
     
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    I think it's the wrong move....but DuClair was terrible against the Devils
    He had been checking some the previous games, but refused to Tuesday night
    That line was terrible, and He was the worst player.

    He still gives the team break away speed the other team has to respect and can lead to CBJ goals
     
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    Yeah, but Dubi is regularly among the worst players. He doesn't pass the eye test and Alison Lukan's recent story outlining WAR numbers tell me my eyes aren't lying.
     
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    At this point, it's really "which center other than PLD will hurt the team less". If it's a decision between playing 3 of the 4 of Dubinsky, Nash, Sedlak and Wennberg, it's pretty much flip of the coin. I'd probably rotate one out every 4 games for the next month and make my decision based on their play in the next month.

    I wouldn't give Wennberg one ounce of priority over Dubinsky. Dubinsky brings better goal scoring and grit and faceoff abilities and Wennberg has better speed and passing. Pretty much rock/paper/scissors on this one. I'd probably take Dubinsky if it were my decision.
     
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    The sky is falling.
     
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    Am I missing something? Not being smartass, we kind of forget Jenner is our de facto #2C. And while he may not be a premier 2C, his line has been very positive contributor since it became 77/38/71.

    It may be choosing 3 of the 4 listed to be in the lineup, but only 2 at C.
     
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    Oops.:laugh: Redo.

    2 spots for the other 4. Flip them coins.
     
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    Huge Wennberg wake up call if it were done.
     
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    I mean considering your posts about Dubinsky last season and off season, that call on Wennberg was really LOUD! :D
     
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    :laugh:

    #10 really needs something to wake his sorry a$$ up. If sitting while 2 of the 3 of Dubinsky, Nash and Sedlak are playing won't do it, then nothing will.

    I can't recall a CBJ in the past 6 or 7 years since I've been closely watching them who deserves the press box "treatment" more than Wennberg.
     
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