The Bluth Company Discussion Thread Part 3 | Advance Monday | Taking Reserves

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    Posts from last thread. Pretty awful break right there.
     
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    Here is each team's guaranteed salary based on who they have under contract for next season. It is up to you to see who you need to sign based on this. The number is not final but it will be between 60 and 70 million depending on what I get from these numbers.

    ANA:37.42
    BOS: 58.72
    BUF: 37.235
    CGY:33.61
    CAR: 50.835
    CHI: 58.015
    COL: 37.295
    CBJ: 45.955
    DAL: 39.84
    DET: 48.91
    EDM: 45.765
    FLA: 41.36
    LAK: 52.055
    MIN: 50.31
    MTL: 34.03
    NSH: 50.005
    NJD: 46.155
    NYI: 29.440
    NYR: 30.415
    OTT: 52.205
    PHI: 54.34
    PHX: 50.875
    PIT: 53.215
    SJS: 43.085
    STL: 50.74
    TBL: 45.935
    TOR: 33.575
    VAN: 44.48
    WSH: 57.26
    WPG: 47.43

    I didn't look at who needs to be signed for each team, so before I set a cap I will need to look over it.
     
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    Only two teams are even near $60 million. I'll have between 27 and 37 million in cap space? :laugh:

    What's the system? Top x one-way contracts?
     
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    Not sure how you're calculating cap. I hope this is kept in mind though...

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    I went with all contracts in the NHL right now, and added a contract or two in the AHL (contracts that were for 80+ overall players).

    Don't forget that some teams with little salary likely have a lot of expiring contracts.

    How will that help? There are a bunch of real-life factors that don't play into the league. Their numbers should not be relevant.
     
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    Your post is confusing, when i see NYR only has $30 mil in Cap tied up at the moment i'm not sure how relevant that is to anything.
     
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    How are you going to differentiate between players in the NHL and AHL for the offseason?

    I know I've said this before, but it really seems to me that the easiest thing would be to calculate a number that includes all contracts--its easy to see simply by looking at the bottom of the contract screen.

    Anything else might be workable for re-signing and free agency (though I'm not convinced), but it is going to be a train wreck to enforce going forward during the regular season (for trades, signings, etc.)
     
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    Next year that is how much they have tied up in players.

    Jack: Calculations will likely be made at the end of the offseason. It would be up to GMs to make sure they are not over the cap by the end of it. I may have to institute waivers so GMs don't bury guys in the minors to make their numbers look smaller than they actually are.
     
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    Waivers were shut off for a reason. Tons and tons of problems.

    Just do projected cap (in a simmed cap league) + 9% every year and you avoid all these headaches
     
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    No you don't. You still have to make sure people follow the cap.

    Deciding the salary cap is the easy part. Enforcing it and determining how you calculate a team's cap is the big problem.

    And me enforcing waivers is a hell of a lot different than the league doing it automatically.
     
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    Well, like I said, you're the one who needs to enforce it, so if it makes sense to you, its fine with me.

    I'm burying Erskine right now--but its only because he sucks. Even with him, I'm only at about $36 million.

    EDIT: What do the numbers look like if we add all salary in the NHL and all salary in the system? Obviously we'd have to use a much larger figure for the cap if we include everything, but I'm just not seeing the clear disadvantage. Who cares if prospects count? Some of them have good contracts, some bad--just like everyone else.
     
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    It's between 14 million and 19(?) million in extra cap. That 5 million could be a huge difference.
     
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    And why is that a bad thing?

    I guess I'm just not understanding the basis for distinguishing between "bad" NHL contracts (which GMs have to deal with) and "bad" prospect contracts (which, under this system, don't count toward the cap).
     
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    Because I don't see why a team should be punished for having more prospects than another team? Especially when prospects take so long to develop, you are just going to get teams no longer signing prospect contracts and being able to keep all their own players because the cap is high to account for those supposed contracts.
     
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    There are no bonuses for new ELCs though, right? So the max any prospect will sign for is 975k.

    I just don't see it as punishment, I guess. It seems like its a cost-benefit thing, just like NHL contracts. Obviously non-NHL contracts don't count toward the cap in real life, but there are any number of other things that set the game apart as well (no waivers, far lower money and shorter term on contracts, etc.). It just seems to me that a flat cap that includes all contracts is simplest, easiest to understand, and easiest to monitor and enforce. Obviously the cap will have to be higher than if we were only counting NHL contracts, or only one-way contracts, or only the top 20 contracts, or whatever, but I just can't really understand the argument for using any of those far more complicated, far more problematic alternatives.

    We find a number that works, then determine the percentage by which it will increase every year. Presto: instant, rational, and predictable cap system.
     
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    Edmonton is currently filled with a Temp, but you can play for St. Louis.
     
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    I don't know, it doesn't seem very fair for teams that had to inherit a lot of contracts and now must pay a penalty for having more prospects in the first few years. This isn't like playing for a team with lots of talent and knowing that talent has a cost. There is no benefit for those teams, and now they will potentially lose out on good free agents because of it.

    If someone can run the numbers (not forgetting goaltender contracts as well) for me while I'm at work, that would help.
     
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    How is that different from inheriting bad NHL contracts and having to deal with them? Obviously the players are usable, but the cost is much higher as well. If GMs actually find a prospect contract unbearable (and I'm hard pressed to think of many such cases--where an ELC includes all bonuses but the player is unusable), they can always trade the player.
     
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    A bad contract can be traded and at least provide value even if overpaid. A useless prospect cannot.

    Again, it would be nice to see the salary for all NHL teams as far as their current AHL contracts go. If there isn't a discernible difference then it could be a possibility.
     
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