THE BIGGEST ISSUE: CULTURE

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  1. MessierII

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    I think Schultz was done here but it was mostly the trickle down effect of the bad situation he was put in after Petry was traded. Petry wanted 4.5 mil for 5 years. My god MacT was an idiot for not giving it to him.
     
  2. ohheyhemsky

    ohheyhemsky Regehr DooDoo

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    The problem is that there is a bald headed **** trading away all of our futures, who has impunity because he's surrounded by a bunch of morons who are too busy circle jerking each other off watching 40th anniversary videos to make any changes. Meanwhile you have the sloppy, greasy owner paying mistresses to pretend to be interested in him enough that he's blinded to the fact that his childhood heroes aren't his friends, they're just in his pocket and the record and on-ice product is irrelevant at this point.
     
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  3. BudBundy

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    Aint it strange how teams with good players always seem to have the best cultures. :sarcasm:
     
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    Ill give Schultz a pretty huge pass. He was thrust into a top pairing role he clearly wasnt ready for. Had we kept Petry and Gilbert, he would have developed very well in a bottom pairing role. Our right side would have been pretty good

    Theyll do a case study on the Oilers one day, and students will have to analyze why the Oilers traded away 2 top 4 puck moving RHD for next to nothing, and then spent the next 3-5 years searching for those same type of D and never succeeding.
     
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    Drafting and development is this groups biggest concern imo

    Can't do it with 1st round picks and free agency alone.
    To be fair, I think the drafting has improved since PC took over.
     
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  6. space321

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    Here's the secret to building a winning culture:

    build a team that's capable of winning games
     
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  7. 5 Mins 4 Ftg

    5 Mins 4 Ftg Booze for Hughes Sponsor

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    You are either an official Oilers burner account or the most positive guy here. I applaud you never wavering from your steadfast beliefs!
     
  8. 5 Mins 4 Ftg

    5 Mins 4 Ftg Booze for Hughes Sponsor

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    Uh oh another Culture vs Talent debate.
     
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    Talent > Culture > Chia screwing up the team
     
  10. Chet Manley

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    I watched the Jets/Avs game before the Oil/Sharks last night. The level of talent in the 1st game was light years ahead of the Oilers. Passing so fast it's amazing the player's brains are able to keep up.

    The Oilers top 5 players aren't that far ahead of any team's top 5, certainly not enough to compensate for the rest of the team. Definitely tired of hearing the players just aren't tring hard enough, if they have to try way harder than the opposition every night it's obviously a talent problem.
     
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    Tech Oops
     
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    Need to upgrade German content on the team. Drai is fine.
     
  13. Soundwave

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    Oilers "culture"

    1.) Rely on very young players to carry franchise.

    2.) Hire stupid management that cannot surround said players with a good team.

    3.) Add 2 scoops of poor/crap drafting in rounds 2,3,4,and 5.

    4.) Be sure to pass on Matt Barzal, Chabot, Conner when given a chance.

    5.) Trade you 2nd best player who can drive a secondary line and give your star player a break once in a blue moon for a no-offence, mediocre at puck moving ability no.3 D-Man. Be sure to act surprised when 2 years later you are a one line team.

    6.) Most important step ... now blame young players for the reason the team isn't good. They'll probably have decent stats, so to get around that you push the term "culture".
     
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  14. ohheyhemsky

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    You forgot, "bank on hope, whilst everyone knows that you're going to constantly tank for talent. Build up reserves of talent and right before it blooms: step 5."
     
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    The only culture issue is we can't find a goalie. Stop the fricking puck! What was Talbot looking at on that first one last night? A deflection along the ice from outside the ringette line. That has been the number 1 problem with this team for 2 years.
     
  16. GreatKeith

    GreatKeith The price you have to pay

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    Winning begets winning and losing begets losing.
     
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    The Oilers biggest problem is that they've had a string of morons in charge for over ten years.
     
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  18. Oilhawks

    Oilhawks Move it to Seattle

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    Came here to say this. Winning creates a positive culture. Clean out the hockey ops and replace them with competent people that know what they're doing, that build the right team and winning will happen. The culture will follow. It always starts at the top, like any business.
     
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    Apparently from day to day, the way this team plays.
     
  20. Todd Parchment

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    MacT and Lowe are some of the biggest winner around. Winning doesn’t attract winning.
     
  21. jumptheshark

    jumptheshark Rebooting myself Sponsor

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    that's mean
     
  22. IBleedOil247

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    Not to make you feel old, but that was 28 Years Ago not 18 :wally:
     
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  23. fuswald

    fuswald I'd Be Fired

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    So 10 years a flames fan first?
     
  24. McCupofOil

    McCupofOil Still Evaluating

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    Those guys weren't driven out by fans, they were driven out by crappy play and crappy management.
     
  25. BudBundy

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    Never once, in Oilers history, has a fan ever been able to pick up the phone and trade anybody, anywhere, for any reason. Players shouldn’t give a damn what some donkey said about them on twitter, and I am certain that GMs dont care. Gilbert was traded because Tambellini was an ass. Petry was traded because MacTavish was an ass. Schultz was traded because, without Petry, he was force fed top line minutes on a shallow team, and was basically shattered and playing terribly when he got the bullet. Eberle was traded because Lucic was sucking $6M out of us (cuz Chia is an ass), we had McDavid and Draisaitl contracts looming, and he had become a soft, perimeter, shadow of his former self while still sucking up $6M of his own.

    Fans dont run players out of town. Mismanagement does. There is some correlation between fans hating a player and that player getting traded. Newsflash- players playing poorly make managers as unhappy as the fans, and they get traded.
    NOTE: This is not to say that idiots dont make players unhappy chirping them and their wife and kids when they are trying to live their lives off the ice, and I sincerely wish those few *******s that engage in that kind of behaviour would STOP IT.
     
  26. Louis Cypher

    Louis Cypher Boys are back in town

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    I agree but the underlying issue with all 3 still exists. We are playing our defence 1 or 2 positions higher than they are capable of playing.

    Didnt Gilbert get waived shortly after he left town?

    Petry wasnt going to sign here unless we massively over paid.

    Schultz should have been given help not traded. As soon as we traded him we were looking to find someone just like him and still havent found an answer. Another stupid Chia trade.
     

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