vladamir konstantinov
This discussion begins and ends with Mark Messier.
Bob Gainey didn't fight but he left some guys feeling some serious pain with his body checks.
How do you know? You saw all of his fights?
Nope, but dropyourgloves.com has, and they have him winning 1 of his 18 scraps:
http://dropyourgloves.com/Fights/FightCard.aspx?Player=2309
As was mentioned already, trusting that website is silly.Nope, but dropyourgloves.com has, and they have him winning 1 of his 18 scraps:
http://dropyourgloves.com/Fights/FightCard.aspx?Player=2309
Not really. It atleast gives you a good idea of how he did. You could maybe argue that he won a few of those losses but there's no way DYG is wrong on all or even most of them.As was mentioned already, trusting that website is silly.
Not really. It atleast gives you a good idea of how he did. You could maybe argue that he won a few of those losses but there's no way DYG is wrong on all or even most of them.
Exactly. If he was a great fighter (or even a good one), it would show up. I don't think there's some sort of secret anti-konstantinov agenda going on.[/QUOTE]
So you'd have us believe, you Konstantinov double agent, you.
I loved this guy as a player, he'd hit everything that moved, battle for every puck and square inch of the ice, but he wasn't a fighter.
Most of the losses can be wrong, especially in this case when it says that 6 losses were narrow and 4 fights were draws (the rest - 1 win, 3 clear losses, 4 unfair, 1 unrated). People who rate the fights often don't take into account when a player got the jump on another or if punches actually connected.