The "Because Oilers" poll

[Fmrnuckfan95]

Oilers hire John Shannon lmao that's a good one. Legitimately started laughing and could actually see them doing that

 

[ujju2]

Voted for Rieder and MacT, and I'd be happy for both of them. I think the Oilers will be decent this year anyways.

 

[JordanGalhanth]

You missed McDavid blows his knee out.

After a cheapshot from Lucic.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

After a cheapshot from Lucic.

That would be so Oilers.

 

[Porkleaker]

I think the only three that have much chance of happening are:
- Neal is worse as last year
- Oilers are a bottom 5 PK team, again
- Rieder signs somewhere and scores 10 or 12 goals

And the odds of the last two are not great, they are just higher than all the others on the list.

I highly doubt Lucic can get back to 40+ points, especially playing 3rd line minutes in CGY. Eberle has only scored 30+ goals once in his career and just signed a new contract so he'll be even less motivated. Hall - I think a lot of things lined up that season for him to win the Hart. I'd be surprised if he ever does it again.

One I'd add to the list is Talbot having a bounce back season with CGY

This, picked the exact same three for the same reason lol.

 

[oilerbear]

“Because Oilers” is a Toronto media developed concept.

Brought by people who think making the playoffs is a measure of an Organization.
That is a losing org. mentality.

The Thing is Alan Michell “Lowetide” from 1260 TSN ( Edmonton Media) taught me the concept of Hockey theory that lead to me developing my 40+ theories like HD area (originally called rickisbox by members of his blog) ( called homeplate by MSM)

Alan taught us the real measure of an Organization is Championship Pennants.

In hockey 2 teams win Pennants each year.
29 other teams are losing orgs.

I looked at 25 years of championship teams and playoff series success.
-40% more Top GA teams make the final 8 than top GF teams.
-7 of every 8 final 4 teams are top GA teams.
- top GA team can win a cup as a bottom 3 GF team.
These are undeniable facts.

History says being a top GA team gives you a good chance at a cup.
Oilers were a top GA team in 16/17. We had 2 good goal calls on clear goalie interference calls that cost us a final 4 position.


We know from specific theories of mine, what drives a top GA team.

-High danger area shot density.

-Avg HDSH ( homeplate) : Avg LDSH ( perimeter) ratio. HDSH go in 5 times more than LDSH.

-Elite HD dmen:
Their are elite HD dmen that cause the lowest % expected shot success rate to their side.

-Table hockey goalie movement:
Playing Road hockey as a 10 yr old in P.A.,I noticed 7 yr old Ron Gunville (Player Personnel Director of WHL Champs PA Raiders) move like a table hockey Goalie. A lot less shots went in!

- Hit Goalie Corsi ( shots):
Any shot that hit a goalie ( weather shot in glove or hitting any other part) without needing movement is a non scorable (Corsi) shot.

- Open/ Closed shots:
Open shot is any corsi that hits open space in net elevation that requires goalie movement for a save. The only scorable shots.
Closed shot is any corsi that hits a goalie and has 0% chance of going in.

- 0%( None scorable) Corsi ( pucks directed at net):
A large % of corsi are non scoreable.
0%Corsi = ( blocks + forced misses + hit goalies)

- Zone entry & Corsi is dictated by forwards failing to run proper NZ transition def against the opposition.

- elite 0% Corsi dmen:
there are Elite Dmen who make a high% of corsi faced non scoreable.
They have the lowest% of open (scorable) shots per corsi faced.
Making Goalies needed save rate the easiest.
#1 last 3 yr K. Russell

- save% baseline established by Dpairs:
d pairs establish the open HD SH save% baseline (expected) that a goalie performance is measured around.

- true goalie measure is the +ve/-ve open HD sh save%:
Goalie performance is a +ve or -ve measure around the expected open HD sh save% to each dmans side.

-Homeplate is the true Team Defensive Zone:
Shots go in 5 times more or greater than any other area on the ice.
It is the true defensive Zone that a 2D - 1G structure needs to be maintained.

- Off dmen are rovers:
Off dmen are really rovers who occupy a higher % of OZ and NZ space than dmen who’s primary role is to defend the True Def Zone (homeplate)

- 3F - 1R - 1D - 1G vs 3F - 2D - 1G:
Off dmen abandon def of HD area to their side when attacking OZ.
They are often the 4th or 5th skater back failing to establish def position in HD area.
Rovers have a high% of open HD shot density to their defensive side.
They establish brutal expected save% baseline for goalies to perform around.
They end up with high evga/60 rates to their side even though a goalie may be a +ve save% goalie to their side.

In 16/17 oilers put more of an emphasis on running a 3-2-1 Def system.
We ended up with 212 GA, we were +37 in Goal dif.

17/18 & 18/19 more of an emphasis on running a higher % of a
3-1-1-1 off structure which is a brutal 1D -1G def of the real def zone ( homeplate).
17/18 263GA
18/19 274GA

IF we had run an emphasis on 3-2-1 structure and ended up with
212 - 220GA we would have made the playoffs in 18/19 and a good chance in 17/18.

We ran a 3-1-1-1 structure last 2 yrs.
“Because Leafs.”
Do not listen to TOR MSM.
Their team has not won a championship in the Modern Era.

Heck I lecture OTT fans all the time.
How their Org. Is Superior to Toronto.
EC champs 06/07
Competed for a Championship (EC finalist)
16/17
02/03

Leafs competed for a championship once in the last 20 years.
01/02

Do not buy into making the playoffs is a good measure.
14 playoff teams are part of the 29 losing orgs each yr.

 

[BlackDogg]

Hard to remember but HFboards had the Oilers at #2 SC favorites two years ago.
How quickly moods change.


HFBoards 2018 Stanley Cup Favourites 1-31

01 Pittsburgh (+1) 74% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2376761
02 Edmonton (+23) 25% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2377033
03 Nashville (+3) 28% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2377305
04 Tampa (-3) 34% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2378193
05 Anaheim (+6) 36% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2378467
06 Washington (-3) 37% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2378709
07 Chicago (-3) 26% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2379057
08 Columbus (+21) 28% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2379373
09 Dallas (-1) 27% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2379623
10 STLouis (-3) 27% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2379847
11 NYRangers (+3) 22% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2380147
12 Minny (+3) 33% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2380415
13 Toronto (+15) 37% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2380639
14 Ottawa (+5) 35% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2380937
15 Calgary (+3) 35% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2381299
16 San Jose (-11) 43% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2381593
17 Montreal (-4) 34% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2381865
18 Boston (+2) 33% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2382137
19 Winnipeg (-2) 35% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2382405
20 Carolina (+6) 53% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2382913
21 TIE BRAKER PHI/LA 32% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2383233
21 Los Angeles (-11) 59% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2383519
22 Philly (-6) 59% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2383803
23 NY Islanders (-11) 45% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2384437
24 Buffalo (-3) 48% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2385153
25 Florida (-16) 56% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2385723
26 Arizona (+1) 65% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2386203
27 New Jersey (-2) 53% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2386485
28 Vancity (+2) 37% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2386775
29 Colorado 56% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2387095
30 Detroit 83% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2387433&highlight=
31 Las Vegas 17% http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2387433&highlight=

 

[syz]

Talbot plays well and Smith shits the bed.

 

[oobga]

Talbot plays well and Smith ****s the bed.

Doh. How could I forget an option for Talbot getting a shutout against us.

 

[rboomercat90]

After a cheapshot from Lucic.

That would take a lot of effort from Lucic.

 

[Bangers]

You missed McDavid blows his knee out.

This is about as funny as aborted fetus jokes.

 

[oobga]

“Because Oilers” is a Toronto media developed concept.

Brought by people who think making the playoffs is a measure of an Organization.
That is a losing org. mentality.

The Thing is Alan Michell “Lowetide” from 1260 TSN ( Edmonton Media) taught me the concept of Hockey theory that lead to me developing my 40+ theories like HD area (originally called rickisbox by members of his blog) ( called homeplate by MSM)

Alan taught us the real measure of an Organization is Championship Pennants.

In hockey 2 teams win Pennants each year.
29 other teams are losing orgs.

I looked at 25 years of championship teams and playoff series success.
-40% more Top GA teams make the final 8 than top GF teams.
-7 of every 8 final 4 teams are top GA teams.
- top GA team can win a cup as a bottom 3 GF team.
These are undeniable facts.

History says being a top GA team gives you a good chance at a cup.
Oilers were a top GA team in 16/17. We had 2 good goal calls on clear goalie interference calls that cost us a final 4 position.


We know from specific theories of mine, what drives a top GA team.

-High danger area shot density.

-Avg HDSH ( homeplate) : Avg LDSH ( perimeter) ratio. HDSH go in 5 times more than LDSH.

-Elite HD dmen:
Their are elite HD dmen that cause the lowest % expected shot success rate to their side.

-Table hockey goalie movement:
Playing Road hockey as a 10 yr old in P.A.,I noticed 7 yr old Ron Gunville (Player Personnel Director of WHL Champs PA Raiders) move like a table hockey Goalie. A lot less shots went in!

- Hit Goalie Corsi ( shots):
Any shot that hit a goalie ( weather shot in glove or hitting any other part) without needing movement is a non scorable (Corsi) shot.

- Open/ Closed shots:
Open shot is any corsi that hits open space in net elevation that requires goalie movement for a save. The only scorable shots.
Closed shot is any corsi that hits a goalie and has 0% chance of going in.

- 0%( None scorable) Corsi ( pucks directed at net):
A large % of corsi are non scoreable.
0%Corsi = ( blocks + forced misses + hit goalies)

- Zone entry & Corsi is dictated by forwards failing to run proper NZ transition def against the opposition.

- elite 0% Corsi dmen:
there are Elite Dmen who make a high% of corsi faced non scoreable.
They have the lowest% of open (scorable) shots per corsi faced.
Making Goalies needed save rate the easiest.
#1 last 3 yr K. Russell

- save% baseline established by Dpairs:
d pairs establish the open HD SH save% baseline (expected) that a goalie performance is measured around.

- true goalie measure is the +ve/-ve open HD sh save%:
Goalie performance is a +ve or -ve measure around the expected open HD sh save% to each dmans side.

-Homeplate is the true Team Defensive Zone:
Shots go in 5 times more or greater than any other area on the ice.
It is the true defensive Zone that a 2D - 1G structure needs to be maintained.

- Off dmen are rovers:
Off dmen are really rovers who occupy a higher % of OZ and NZ space than dmen who’s primary role is to defend the True Def Zone (homeplate)

- 3F - 1R - 1D - 1G vs 3F - 2D - 1G:
Off dmen abandon def of HD area to their side when attacking OZ.
They are often the 4th or 5th skater back failing to establish def position in HD area.
Rovers have a high% of open HD shot density to their defensive side.
They establish brutal expected save% baseline for goalies to perform around.
They end up with high evga/60 rates to their side even though a goalie may be a +ve save% goalie to their side.

In 16/17 oilers put more of an emphasis on running a 3-2-1 Def system.
We ended up with 212 GA, we were +37 in Goal dif.

17/18 & 18/19 more of an emphasis on running a higher % of a
3-1-1-1 off structure which is a brutal 1D -1G def of the real def zone ( homeplate).
17/18 263GA
18/19 274GA

IF we had run an emphasis on 3-2-1 structure and ended up with
212 - 220GA we would have made the playoffs in 18/19 and a good chance in 17/18.

We ran a 3-1-1-1 structure last 2 yrs.
“Because Leafs.”
Do not listen to TOR MSM.
Their team has not won a championship in the Modern Era.

Heck I lecture OTT fans all the time.
How their Org. Is Superior to Toronto.
EC champs 06/07
Competed for a Championship (EC finalist)
16/17
02/03

Leafs competed for a championship once in the last 20 years.
01/02

Do not buy into making the playoffs is a good measure.
14 playoff teams are part of the 29 losing orgs each yr.

I just can't get on board with the idea that Toronto media created the concept of Oilers being bad because they're the Oilers I feel like Oilers fans own this idea. No one can bash the Oilers like Oilers fans. And over a decade of disappointment has made us all pros at pessimism. There is nothing some Toronto fan, or flames fan, or media people can say to bash this team that Oilers fans have not already said themselves. It's laughable when some other teams fan bashes us about Lowe being here still, or Katz's jock sniffing, or that Lucic sucked. We own all that stuff, those people are way behind the times. It's like if someone went up to Jim Gaffigan and thought they were clever by calling him fat after he's made tens of millions making jokes about how fat he is

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

This is about as funny as aborted fetus jokes.

McDavid can’t get pregnant.

 

[BlackDogg]

Talbot stops the first shot several times.

 

[SwedishFire]

Some choices are even more likley than not, Reider will surely score more goals for a team than last season (in wich injures spoiled him, I remember him starting out good from the block in the first games, lost speed when he came back). Ebelrre can possible score 30 goals, but it is almost scary how fast this player is declining. You cant belivie this was a 70 pts player once. I can sepe McLellan redeem himself without nuthead Chiarelli.

But I voted for the most ironic outcome of possible ´causes. MacTavish going in and win KHL championship with the unexpected KHL rookie of the year Ty Rattie.

 

[Yukon Joe]

I can see the Ralph Kruger one happening...

 

[JordanGalhanth]

There's one important poll option missing...

Dallas Eakins coaches the Anaheim Ducks to a Stanley Cup Championship.

 

[heilongjetsfan]

No 1oa option?

 

[nturn06]

The one from the list which would shock me most would be the Eberle one.... He showed soo much potential, and then, after signing a big fat contract he started regressing... Each year was worse than the last....

Now, after he signed another fat contract, I expect him to have again a career low season...

I think too many people are getting hyped over the fact that he had couple strong games in the playoffs... Yes, when he wants he can....But I will be shocked if he scores 40 goals ever again, and will be surprised if he hits 30 again in the next couple years....

All the others, I hope most won't happen, but I think for each there is at least a small chance they could.

 

[BertMcDrai]

Also missing the Talbot option and Burdasov signing with Flames and scoring 20+ goals.

 

[JordanGalhanth]

I know it's preseason...But how about that game tonight?

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

The one from the list which would shock me most would be the Eberle one.... He showed soo much potential, and then, after signing a big fat contract he started regressing... Each year was worse than the last....

Now, after he signed another fat contract, I expect him to have again a career low season...

I think too many people are getting hyped over the fact that he had couple strong games in the playoffs... Yes, when he wants he can....But I will be shocked if he scores 40 goals ever again, and will be surprised if he hits 30 again in the next couple years....

All the others, I hope most won't happen, but I think for each there is at least a small chance they could.

Isn't it funny that nobody is fooled by Eberle having a few good playoff games but so many people are referencing Mike Smith's few playoff games as a predictor for this year.