The Antoine Roussel thread

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  1. sting101 Registered User

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    Yes Roussel has such a limited skillset that after putting some more miles on the treads and a knee surgery he's become completely ineffective. In Dallas his speed and tenacity allowed him to move up and down the lineup to provide someone who could create turnovers. His passing was always pretty underrated but even that is gone after the 1st year here.

    He's lost a step and gets penalized every time someone falls down around him which players know and use to full advantage.

    Just another in the growing list of underachievers on the team this year. He's become a liability above the 4th line and if it continues i would consider buying him out for the 1.3 in cap space for next year.
     
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    Burying him creates a little less space (1.025m) but doesn’t carry any money forward.
     
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    Age 30+ bottom-6 energy guys basically aren't a thing, which is why giving him 4 years was so ridiculous.
     
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    Cap Hit Calculations

    SEASONINITIAL BASE SALARYINITIAL CAP HITSIGNING BONUSBUYOUT COSTPOST-BUYOUT EARNINGSSAVINGSCAP HIT ([​IMG]VAN)
    2021-22$1,900,000$3,000,000$0$633,333$633,333$1,266,667$1,733,333
    2022-23$0$0$0$633,333$633,333-$633,333$633,333
    TOTAL$1,900,000$3,000,000$0$1,266,667$1,266,667$633,333$2,366,666
     
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    Why do we want $633k the following season?

    Burying him provides less than $200k difference between a buyout next year.
     
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    Yup ride the bus
     
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    because the next season is less tight and 1.3 could help us net a good quality 3C
    22/23 off the books...
    Eriksson Luongo Beagle Roussel = 15 million
     
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    Are you disagreeing with me just for the sake of it?

    burying him saves $1.1m. You’d rather have a $633k hit the following year for $200k savings next ? 1.1m can toward a 3C as well.

    weird.
     
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    Getting bogged down in semantics here.

    All i'm saying is if they needed the cap space (because it's going to be tight next year unless Loui graciously steps away) it may be a good idea to buy him out.

    And if your unhappy with his play. You save ownership paying him an extra 700k.
     
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    Roussel's knee injury was unfortunate. He was actually very effective in his first year with Vancouver, particularly next to Horvat.

    Unfortunately, since the injury, he's been essentially replacement level.

    Just another lesson in the "don't be Jim Benning" playbook. Signing ageing, mid-level vets to expensive contracts is almost never a smart idea.
     
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    Played above the level what he was paid (imho) that year.
     
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    Roussel was hot with Horvat in that first season and poor when away from him.
     
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    I think he may have reached the stage in his career where he is actually better at selling cars than playing hockey.
     
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    Have you heard those car commercials? He's bad on the ice, but not 'that bad'. He'd be unwise to quit his day job.
     
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    I really dont understand why he never comes out of the line up. Doesnt really do anything.
     
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    Agree, Roussel was doing a solid job before the knee injury. Not close to the same player since then.
     
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    He speaks French.
     
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    Sometimes a player survives in the lineup against all odds and logic....because the coach just likes him. So it was with Jayson Megna and Willie Desjardins.

    So you can imagine my shock when I tuned in the recent Vegas--Avalanche game, and there were the guys in booth announcing the same Jayson Megna playing wing on a stacked team like the Av's. So maybe Willie knew something.

    But for what Roussel is producing these days, it's impossible to believe that MacEwen, Hawryluk, or even Michaelis wouldn't bring more to the table. But this coach will go over the cliff with 'his guys' I guess.
     
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    Roussel’s contract was absolutely stupid at the time. I just remember all the idiot apologist reporters being like “Roussel and Beagle signings were fine other than the prices and terms”. How can someone say something so absolutely stupid. But of course that was when cap space didn’t matter.
     
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    Megna, currently 31, played 9 fewer NHL games that one season under WD than he has in the entirety of the rest of his career combined.
     
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    Sucks having to support a team where this guy gets to play every game regardless of effectiveness. He’s a gutless puke too, usually has helmet and gloves glued on.
     
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    Roussel seemed redundant when they also signed Schaller. Schaller, despite being unproductive, at least was only 2 years. That was a more logical signing than adding Roussel. Take the shorter term.

    But, that's been the case of this management group. Always willing to give term to get their target guy.
     
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    I'm actually starting to feel a twinge of sympathy for Roussel, who's clearly not the player he was and probably never will be again.

    I get the fact that he's a black hole offensively on the third line; usually takes a bad penalty or two every game; and is a turnover machine along the wall. I'm sure he knows how badly he's playing right now.

    But it's hardly his fault that the coach won't sit him for Hawryluk, Michaelis or somebody from Utica with a pulse. This kind of mindless gifting of ice time to veterans by this coach has gone on for years. It's almost as if he defies anyone to point out that a lineup change just might be good for the player and the team.
     
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    I do not enjoy having this player on my team.
     
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    Roussel before his serious knee injury was having a fantastic first season with the Canucks and was worth his contract. Usage wise he was Horvat's best partner at the time. His "counting stats" weren't anything impressive but his underlying stats left little to criticize. He doesn't turn 32 until November.

    The Canucks overpaid to get him here but before he went down with a knee injury it was looking like a really good signing. Of course in today's environment, $3M for a projected 3rd line winger isn't a great way to spend your cap dollars.
     

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