Prospect Info: The 2019 Entry NHL Draft Thread - Part III

[Avsboy]

Apparently Kakko mentioned that he watches a lot of Avs games when asked about his favourite NHL team.

Hughes is also a fan, I think he mentioned how amazing it would be to be drafted by the Avs since they don't suck so badly.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Hughes is also a fan, I think he mentioned how amazing it would be to be drafted by the Avs since they don't suck so badly.

Hmmm...
Avs win draft lottery, followed by Sens winning the 2OA

New best buds Hughes and Kakko play on their "favourite" team.
???
Stanley Cups.

 

[HugeMetalFan]

Hughes is also a fan, I think he mentioned how amazing it would be to be drafted by the Avs since they don't suck so badly.

I guess he was too busy with WJC to watch Avs in December, then.

 

[BleedWell]

Apparently Kakko mentioned that he watches a lot of Avs games when asked about his favourite NHL team.

Kakko-MacKinnon-Rantanen
Landeskog-Hayes-Apparently Not Stone

Yes he did. But that's no wonder since him and Rants are buds and we have the Ottawa pick.
And if there were any doubts did we have the best line in hockey this year that first line would definitely be.

 

[HugeMetalFan]

If we do end up with Byram, how do we get 2C? I'm not sure relying on free agency is a safe move. And does Barrie even have such a value to return a 2C?

 

[S E P H]

I actually would like to know Mr. Dater (@BleedWell), will you still be an Avs fan or on this board if we do not end up with Kakko?

Considering I was Finland not long ago watching games, your claim is nonsense.

Did the plane slip off the runway or did it have chains?

Who'd win in a fight between Goku & Superman? Kakko.

Directed by Team Fourstar, I would kill to see that.

...you realize that I'm wearing this avi because I lost a bet about the Nylander contract; a bet where I had wagered that he'd sign for 7M per this past summer...

And secondly, so what if I did? If you think that a person can not enjoy or cheer for athletes that do not share their passport; then it is you, my friend, who is living in a very weird (and archaic) world.

Lol, that makes a ton of sense. Better have a bloke who got surgery so he wouldn't miss his sister's birthday than any German who's currently playing on RM (considering the season they're having).

I still have some long-term concerns about Heiskanen's offensive upside. He's got smarts and skating, not sure he has the ultra dynamic offensive skill set to be a 50+ point guy. Not needed in a #1, but there are still some questions there. He has tracked better than I thought pre U18s that year though and looks everybit a top pairing guy. I think Byram has some similar questions. No doubt he is putting up great numbers, just not sure if I see high-end offensive ability there. I'd fee comfortable projecting a really solid 2-3 though.

Glad we see the same issues concerning Byram, but I don't think it is wrong to say that he's had a good enough season and potential to be safely regarded as a #2 defender. Drafting a #3 defender in the top 5 is an absolute no-go for me.

Again, 4th overall isn't that easy of selection as you lot think (not targeting you Hench). You got Cozens, who has all the tools and is a natural centre. You have Podkolzin and his ability to create something out of nothing with the puck. You got superb cerebral playmaker Dach. Potential chance of dynamism Turcotte. Solid jack-of-all-trades Byram and of course Krebs is playing his way into top 5-7 discussions now considering what he's been able to do with no talent around him.

 

[BleedWell]

I actually would like to know Mr. Dater (@BleedWell), will you still be an Avs fan or on this board if we do not end up with Kakko?

Did the plane slip off the runway or did it have chains?


Directed by Team Fourstar, I would kill to see that.


Lol, that makes a ton of sense. Better have a bloke who got surgery so he wouldn't miss his sister's birthday than any German who's currently playing on RM (considering the season they're having).


Glad we see the same concerns concerning Byram, but I don't think it is wrong to say that he's had a good enough season and potential to be safely regarded as a #2 defender.

Again, 4th overall isn't that easy of selection as you lot think (not targeting you Hench). You got Cozens, has all the tools and is a natural centre. You have Podkolzin and his ability to create something out of nothing with the puck. You got superb cerebral playmaker Dach. Potential chance of dynamism Turcotte. Solid jack-of-all-trades Byram and of course Krebs is playing his way into top 5-7 discussions now considering what he's been able to do with no talent around him.

No. I'll move on covering the Celtics.

 

[AvsFan29]

Looking good.

Look at Columbus, and imagine they lose those 4 players. Ouch.

 

[avsfan09]

If we do end up with Byram, how do we get 2C? I'm not sure relying on free agency is a safe move. And does Barrie even have such a value to return a 2C?

Trade a shit-ton of futures. At that point we would have prospects coming in at all positions and only a few holes. Agressively filling them really would be the last piece to our championship caliber squad. Fill the 2c position and use our current prospects to fill our team out and keep cap down while competing for a cup.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Kakko just dropped to the bottom of the charts for me in that case.

 

[S E P H]

No. I'll move on covering the Celtics.

Touche and legitimately laughed at that. And if we get Kakko will you take me to Nightwish concert?

 

[HugeMetalFan]

Trade a ****-ton of futures. At that point we would have prospects coming in at all positions and only a few holes. Agressively filling them really would be the last piece to our championship caliber squad. Fill the 2c position and use our current prospects to fill our team out and keep cap down while competing for a cup.

Yeah, I'm not sure we have such a deep prospect pool. I see a lot of holes/question marks at all positions. Also, it doesn't look like Sakic is going to be overly aggressive. But maybe he'll be forced to change approach. We'll see.

 

[avsfan09]

Yeah, I'm not sure we have such a deep prospect pool. I see a lot of holes/question marks at all positions. Also, it doesn't look like Sakic is going to be overly aggressive. But maybe he'll be forced to change approach. We'll see.

Where do you see us lacking?

 

[Foppberg]

Where do you see us lacking?

goaltending mostly

 

[avsfan09]

goaltending mostly

True. But honestly thats another position I'd rather pay to address than shoot darts.

 

[HugeMetalFan]

Where do you see us lacking?

#1 goalie, #1 D (Makar is the best bet, but even if he pans out it'll take a while), #2 C and frankly whole 2nd line. Bottom 6 could use more quality players but I guess that is fixable relatively easy.

 

[avsfan09]

#1 goalie, #1 D (Makar is the best bet, but even if he pans out it'll take a while), #2 C and frankly whole 2nd line. Bottom 6 could use more quality players but I guess that is fixable relatively easy.

I agree with Goaltending but this convo was assuming we drafted Byram. With Byram and Makar I'd feel pretty damn comfy at D.

 

[AvsFan29]

I agree with Goaltending but this convo was assuming we drafted Byram. With Byram and Makar I'd feel pretty damn comfy at D.

If Jost hasn't had such a bad year, Byram would be a more tempting pick.

 

[henchman21]

Glad we see the same issues concerning Byram, but I don't think it is wrong to say that he's had a good enough season and potential to be safely regarded as a #2 defender. Drafting a #3 defender in the top 5 is an absolute no-go for me.

I'm probably a bit more conservative on projections as I age. To me the difference between a 2 and a 3 can be slim, but significant at the same time. I wouldn't be all that thrilled with landing a #3D with a top 5 pick, but I wouldn't find that much, if any, different than getting a 2nd line wing out of that pick too.

 

[HugeMetalFan]

I agree with Goaltending but this convo was assuming we drafted Byram. With Byram and Makar I'd feel pretty damn comfy at D.

Yes, that's true. Perhaps Sakic could afford to trade defense for top 6 players. After all, that's how Nashville got their top 2 centers.

 

[cgf]

How about his goal total and the fact he has scored 6 ot winners. That at the very least indicates he has alot of poise in big situations and poise is one if the main things I look for in a defenseman that has the tools to be a #1

The way he's turned it up is why I waiver and am not just out on him in the top 5. But it's still production at a level where you can create with less dynamic tools...so it doesn't answer the question of whether his talent is special enough to produce exceptionally at the next level as well.

I'm not completely against Byram by any means; as he does tick a lot of boxes for me and sooner or later I'll see enough of him to get a handle on how I feel about how his skill will translate...but for now I'm still really iffy.

Directed by Team Fourstar, I would kill to see that.

That would be amazing. I can't wait to see them cover Gohan's High School days & the Great Saiyaman Saga...since that's the best part of DBZ...but I'd wait for that

 

[tucker3434]

Just went to over to tankathon. First sim, we got the second pick... with our own pick. Ottawa got 4th. What a fun draft that would be.

 

[AvsFan29]

Just went to over to tankathon. First sim, we got the second pick... with our own pick. Ottawa got 4th. What a fun draft that would be.

If we get two top 5 picks I will lose my shit

 

[cgf]

I still have some long-term concerns about Heiskanen's offensive upside. He's got smarts and skating, not sure he has the ultra dynamic offensive skill set to be a 50+ point guy. Not needed in a #1, but there are still some questions there. He has tracked better than I thought pre U18s that year though and looks everybit a top pairing guy. I think Byram has some similar questions. No doubt he is putting up great numbers, just not sure if I see high-end offensive ability there. I'd fee comfortable projecting a really solid 2-3 though.

That's fair. I think he'll be at least a perennial 40-45+ point guy in his prime, which with his skating & smarts is still good enough to become a #1; as you said. Wasn't trying to call you out or beat my own chest on that...just trying to say that those concerns you had with Miro back then, are how I feel about Byram now.

Miro showed the skill & puck control to have translateable offense, even if it doesn't end up matching what Makar may produce, whereas with Byram I'm still very skeptical on how much of it will translate. I mean a 30-35 point guy with his skating and decent size is still a really nice blueliner to have...and would be our best LHD...but not at the cost of a pick that could've been spent on a Turcotte / Podkolzin / Cozens instead.

I'd love to add a peak Bouwmeester to this squad. I like Byram I don't think he ends up an elite 1D but I think there's a chance he can get there. But I can definitely see a very good top line defenseman there even a lower end 1D like Reilly.

I would to...but not in lieu of a 65+ point C or PPG winger...

 

[AvsFan29]

Just went to over to tankathon. First sim, we got the second pick... with our own pick. Ottawa got 4th. What a fun draft that would be.

2nd spin