Speculation: The 2019 Draft Thread - Sabres pick 7th

[AustonsNostrils]

Could you trade 12th,17th and 28th overall for a top 5 pick?

 

[AustonsNostrils]

Here's how trading 12th/17th/28th for 5th worked out since 2003.

Vanek - Jessiman/Parise/Perry
Wheeler - Thelen/Schwarz/Fistric
Price - M Staal/Hanzal/Niskanen
Kessel - Little/Lewis/N Foligno
Alzner - McDonaugh/Cherepanov/Petrecki
Schenn - Myers/Gardiner/Tikhonov
B Schenn - De Haan/Rundblad/Olsen
Neiderreiter - Fowler/Hishon/Coyle
Strome - R Murphy/Beaulieu/Z Phillips
Rielly - Grigorenko/Hertl/Skjei
Lindholm - Domi/Lazar/Klimchuk
Dal Colle - Perlini/Sanheim/Ho Sang
Hanifin - Gurianov/Connor/Beauvillier
Juolevi - McLeod/Fabbro/Johansen
Pettersson - Necas/Liljegren/Bowers

 

[Jim Bob]

Could you trade 12th,17th and 28th overall for a top 5 pick?

There is no history in the NHL of a team trading out of a top 5 pick for a package of just later picks.

If a top 10 pick moves, it is almost always in a deal for a player and not picks.

 

[1972]

Could you trade 12th,17th and 28th overall for a top 5 pick?

Why on earth would you?

 

[AustonsNostrils]

Why on earth would you?

the possibility of this

Pettersson - Necas/Liljegren/Bowers

 

[1972]

the possibility of this

Pettersson - Necas/Liljegren/Bowers

Ok lol. That’s a narrow minded view. You are way better off having three darts then one when you are talking 17 year old hockey players. Having a scouting department who actually is competent is way more important then where you pick.

 

[DolanPlsGoSabres]

Teams picking around 5 will rather have one almost certain to be extremely good piece than 3 chance to be really good pieces.

 

[Jim Bob]

the possibility of this

Pettersson - Necas/Liljegren/Bowers

That is why teams have never traded back like that in recent NHL history.

 

[debaser66]

You are good with 3 first round picks
Unless you are the 2015 Bruins

 

[truthbluth]

You are good with 3 first round picks
Unless you are the 2015 Bruins

Historically, teams with 3 1st rd picks in the same draft have done poorly

 

[debaser66]

Historically, teams with 3 1st rd picks in the same draft have done poorly

Historically teams who sit first in the NHL by the end of November haven't missed the playoffs so I hope there is some balance in the Hockeyverse with Buf 3 picks

 

[truthbluth]

Historically teams who sit first in the NHL by the end of November haven't missed the playoffs so I hope there is some balance in the Hockeyverse with Buf 3 picks

Well, arguably the best any team has ever done with 3 1st round picks is the 1982 Sabres (Housley, Cyr, Andreychuk). So, maybe this is kind of our thing?

 

[debaser66]

Well, arguably the best any team has ever done with 3 1st round picks is the 1982 Sabres (Housley, Cyr, Andreychuk). So, maybe this is kind of our thing?

Who thought that drafting a great player can become such a pain many years later.

 

[Chainshot]

You are good with 3 first round picks
Unless you are the 2015 Bruins

Or the '89 Leafs, or the '97 Kings. Or the '82 and '83 Sabres.

Having three is no guarantee of good quality development outcomes. It actually seems to be the opposite.

 

[truthbluth]

Or the '89 Leafs, or the '97 Kings. Or the '82 and '83 Sabres.

Having three is no guarantee of good quality development outcomes. It actually seems to be the opposite.

I mean, the Sabres got two hall of famers in one draft in 1982. That’s....pretty good.

 

[Chainshot]

I mean, the Sabres got two hall of famers in one draft in 1982. That’s....pretty good.

And it took trading both of them to get out of the first round of the playoffs again after Phil’s rookie season.

 

[truthbluth]

And it took trading both of them to get out of the first round of the playoffs again after Phil’s rookie season.

I mean, ok, but it was a good draft.

 

[1972]

Or the '89 Leafs, or the '97 Kings. Or the '82 and '83 Sabres.

Having three is no guarantee of good quality development outcomes. It actually seems to be the opposite.

I wonder if it messes with the scouting departments philosophy and they don’t put the work in like they would with just one pick.

 

[Der Jaeger]

With the three firsts, I’d like to see something like:

Seider
McMichael/Leason
Leason/Beecher

 

[truthbluth]

With the three firsts, I’d like to see something like:

Seider
McMichael/Leason
Leason/Beecher

I’m on the complete other side I think.
Give me 3 of Caufield, Brink, Robertson, Pelletier

 

[DJN21]

Still want Nolan Foote regardless. Cant teach bloodlines or size and his offense has been adequate too. If we pick three times and don't take him I'll be mad.

 

[Jim Bob]

Take the best USNTDP player available.

The dream is that they have Turcotte (injury concern) and Caufield (size concern) fall to them.

And if Zegras is there, you know Captain Jack would approve of adding another Terrier to the organization.

 

[Der Jaeger]

I’m on the complete other side I think.
Give me 3 of Caufield, Brink, Robertson, Pelletier

The NHL play style swings. I don’t want to get caught with another 2010 team full of mini notes while the league is trending big. I’d rather just draft balanced.

 

[truthbluth]

The NHL play style swings. I don’t want to get caught with another 2010 team full of mini notes while the league is trending big. I’d rather just draft balanced.

I’m just thinking that organizationally we have shit for skill.
Edit: But I agree in principal. I think that in a few years the NHL will be trending after the Winnipeg build. Long, fast and physical.

 

[Der Jaeger]

I’m just thinking that organizationally we have **** for skill.

Olofsson and Asplund are coming, and they aren’t giants. I’d rather go get a skilled forward like Leason who can hold his own, than another sub 5-10 player.