it's THE FINALS. Of course Jordan played against some "real good teams" too. And of course he played some Hall of Famers. But not all "really good teams" are created equally. Jordan's opponents were not as fearsome as Lebron's and it's not really very close either.
The fact is Lebron needed to be part of a super team to start his legacy. He made the finals too early in his career and needed to guarantee a championship. He bailed on his team once so he could learn how to win from Wade and Riley. When he couldn't get them to spend more he bailed on them. Now he is on a team where they spent 20 million more than the champ and still lost. Jordan wasn't an opportunist, he was a leader who earned his titles. That's why he will always be better than Lebron.
Almost all of those hall of famers who played against Lebron were drafted by those teams. Lebron broke the mold of leading his team to greatness. He bailed for greatness then all was forgiven and he lead a team to a title.LOL
You just gave me 7 players who were all very good, 6 of them Hall of Famers. Taking into account all 6 of MJ's Finals appearances he battled 9 players who are in the Hall of Fame. Off the top of my head Lebron has faced 11 almost all of them multiple times: Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobli, Tony Parker, Kevin Durant, James Harden, Russell Westbrook, Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Dirk Nowitzki, Jason Kidd.
Ok, so since MJ's a SG, obviously he should have more assists and steals than a SF, right? Oh, wait... As I said, Lebron is going to dwarf MJ's playoff and Finals numbers when it's all said and done.
You're better than this, Voight. That was feeble.
This food didn't make me think much.
Spend on who?
Jordan did go to a crap team and was the reason they turned it around. He lost to the Pistons 3 years in a row before beating them. and winning a championship. Lebron left a team that won 66 games and 61 games in his last 2 seasons before he bolted. A back to back MVP can't get those stars to come to his team? He went to the finals in his 4th season and thought he should be there. That was the plan all along with wade and Bosh. The Cavs were on there way to winning eventually but by the age of 25 he left because the fear of not winning as much as Jordan because his goal was to always be better.
I agree and don't put a ton of emphasis on 6-0 or 3-5, or 8 vs 6. They're both two of the all-time greats that do it in different times with different styles.
It's not because he didn't leave via free agency it is he stayed and built his legacy bringing his team to greatness. During that era players were loyal and if they didn't win so be it. None of them came off as above the team. They either won or they didn't. they didn't manufacture teams in order to win, they did it through perseverance. What made Lebron come back to such a bad team then? He stayed in Miami just long enough to use them to achieve a small window of greatness. He learned how to win from Riley and Wade. He used that same format to win one in Cleveland. Now he is facing probably one of the best teams ever assembled who are using that format and there is a good chance he bails in a year. Nowadays players make so much money that basketball is not that important. To have the nerve to believe that you should be able to takes games off to rest during the season is a slap in the face to everyone. You are so entitled that you think you don't have to play by the same rules. The reason why the season is long is so that the best teams who can handle it are crowned champions. Not the teams that assume they will be in the finals need their rest to be at their best. That is not sport.
The results aren't really gonna skew from what they would be if you cut 10 games.
