The $200 Lineup Game

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

As a lifelong die-hard Oilers fan I find it shocking that this is the first time I've ever seen Reed Larson's name.

 

[Meuracas]

TBL

G Evgeni Nabokov (11)
LD Luke Richardson (27)
RD Adrian Aucoin (26)
LW Gary Roberts (30)
C Craig Janney (38)
RW Mark Recchi (62)

$194 in total

 

[Miltons tomatoplant]

PHI

Hawerchuk 67 Oates 14 Jagr 73
Zhitnik 31 Malakhov 6
Talbot 4
$195 total

Second line/backup:

Nedved 49 Zhamnov 20 Comrie 21
Kubina 17 Markov 34
Burke 26

$167

 

[Hockey Outsider]

$200 game is for wimps, how about a $500 game for an entire position-minded roster?

Canucks:

Geoff Sanderson	22	Mats Sundin	41	Rick Vaive	47
Thomas Vanek	61	Derek Roy	12	Jimmy Carson	34
Martin Rucinsky	13	Michael Peca	37	Michael Grabner	20
Marco Sturm	6	Samuel Pahlsson	19	Sergei Nemchinov	6
Matthieu Schneider	17			Jeff Brown	72
Keith Carney	18			Doug Bodger	13
Marc Bergevin	9			Ossi Vannanen	3
		Sean Burke	16
		Johan Hedberg	21

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Total: $487

Great idea! Here's what the Leafs roster might look like (with some notes, as many of these are older players):

Player	Games	Position	Notes
Andy Bathgate	70	RW	Hall of Famer; finished in top five in scoring nine years in a row, usually as by far the best forward on his team
Don Luce	39	C	Great defensive forward, especially on the penalty kill
Dickie Moore	38	LW	Hall of Famer; won two consecutive Art Ross trophies; major contributor to Habs dynasty
Mike Peca	35	C	Two-time Selke trophy winner
Eric Lindros	33	C	Hall of Famer; perhaps the greatest combination of skill, size and toughness in NHL history after Gordie Howe
Frank Nighbor	23	C	Hall of Famer; won the first ever Hart trophy; best defensive forward of his generation; was likely the 3rd best player in hockey history up to WWII
Mariusz Czerkawski	19	RW	Skilled forward who had a couple of really impressive seasons on some very poor NYI teams
Ron Francis	12	C	Hall of Famer; his offense is probably a bit overrated (he was a top ten scorer just once playing without Lemieux and/or Jagr), but he was very consistent, and a great two-way player
Olli Jokinen	6	C	Four 30 goal seasons in a low scoring era; veteran of over 1,200 games
Syd Howe	3	C/LW	Hall of Famer; how many people know that he was, at one point, the highest scoring forward in NHL history?
Ken Linseman	2	C	Tough, aggressive forward who scored over 800 points
JP Parise	1	LW	Good all-around forward with a long career
Pierre Pilote	69	D	Hall of Famer; probably around the 15th best defenseman all-time; won three Norris trophies and was runner-up three more times
Brian Leetch	15	D	Hall of Famer; won two Norris trophies and a Conn Smythe
Sprague Cleghorn	13	D	Hall of Famer; a psychopath by today's standards, but well-rounded if you can get past lack of discipline; two-time runner-up for the Hart trophy
Calle Johansson	8	D	A responsible, minute-munching defenseman; a veteran of over 1,100 games
Glen Wesley	7	D	A quiet, minute-munching veteran; a steadying presence on the blueline
Phil Housley	1	D	Hall of Famer; yes he's awful defensively, but at the cost of 1 game, I'll find a way to fit him and his 1,232 points onto the roster
Bernie Parent	65	G	Hall of Famer; one of only three players in history to win back-to-back Conn Smythe trophies
Gerry Cheevers	2	G	Hall of Famer; probably the weakest goalie in the HOF but still an important contributor to Orr's Bruins

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Total = $461

 

[Hockey Outsider]

One more, here's what the Rangers would look like:

Player	Games	Position	Notes
Guy Lafleur	67	RW	Hall of Famer; I know it's a lot to allocate 67 games for one player but Lafleur was that good; three scoring titles, two Hart trophies, a Conn Smythe, and by far the best forward on arguably the NHL's greatest dynasty
Pavel Bure	51	RW	Hall of Famer; an outstanding goal-scorer
Dick Duff	43	LW	Hall of Famer; probably doesn't deserve that accolade, but was a good depth contributor to many Stanley Cup winners
Vaclav Nedomansky	34	RW	Hall of Famer; skilled goal-scoring forward
Olli Jokinen	26	C	See comments for Leafs, solid forward
Don Luce	21	C	See comments for Leafs, great penalty killer
Doug Bentley	20	LW	Hall of Famer; three-time first-team all-star
Eric Staal	20	C	Is quietely approaching 1,000 points despite playing in a low-scoring era; pretty consistent
Howie Morenz	18	C	Hall of Famer; the greatest forward up to WWII; three Hart trophies, two scoring titles, and three Stanley Cups
Jari Kurri	14	RW	Hall of Famer; excellent two-way player; proved he wasn't a product of Gretzky in 1989; major contributor to Oilers dynasty
Glen Anderson	12	RW	Hall of Famer; also a major contributor to Oilers dynasty
Rob Zamuner	9	LW	Good utility forward
Babe Siebert*	56	D	Hall of Famer; won a Hart trophy and spent three years as a first-team all-star
Sandis Ozolinsh	40	D	Inconsisten, but could be a game-breaker offensively when at his best
Bryan McCabe	19	D	Inconsistent, but good PP production and a good hip check; needs someone to cover for his defensive lapeses
Derek Morris	18	D	Never produced the offense expected, but played over 1,100 games
Roman Hamrlik	12	D	Steady, versatile veteran of nearly 1,400 games; had a great shot; can play a ton of minutes
Marty McSorley	9	D	Everyone remembers him for one truly unfortuante incident, but was a steady bottom-pairing defenseman for nearly 1,000 games before that
Terry Sawchuk	8	G	Hall of Famer; the reality is his career after his first stint in Detroit was nothing special, but he had one of the best five year peaks of any goalie in history
Harry Lumley	1	G	Hall of Famer; veteran of over 800 games; twice a first-team all-star; won a Stanley Cup as a starter

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Total = $498

Eight Hall of Fame forwards is impressive, but the blueline is weak.

 

[Hockey Outsider]

Okay, I promise this is the last one - the St. Louis Blues:

Player	Games	Position	Notes
Dale Hawerchuk	66	C	Hall of Famer; for the first ten years of his career, was second in scoring only to Gretzky; was usually by far the best forward on his team
Esa Tikkanen	54	LW	The ultimate pest; a pain to play against, but with some scoring talent (three 70+ point seasons); four-time Selke finalist; a great playoff performer
Glen Anderson	51	RW	Hall of Famer; discussed previously
Dickie Moore	27	LW	Hall of Famer; discussed previously
Peter Stastny	23	C	Hall of Famer; the second-highest scoring player of the eighties after Gretzky
Vaclav Nedomansky	22	RW	Hall of Famer; discussed previously
Scott Gomez	21	C	A very good playmaker who was a solid contributor to two Stanley Cup champions
Petr Nedved	19	C	Scored over 700 points in close to 1,000 games
Wayne Gretzky	18	C	Hall of Famer; the greatest player of all time
Ray Ferraro	15	C	A long career; scored nearly 900 points over more than 1,200 games
Olli Jokinen	8	C	Why does he keep showing up on these teams?
Martin Havlat	2	RW	For an investment of $2, I'll take someone who scored nearly 600 points in a low-scoring era
Doug Harvey	70	D	Hall of Famer; won seven Norris trophies and was probably the single most important player on the only dynasty in NHL history to win five consecutive Stanley Cups
Phil Housley	26	D	Hall of Famer; discussed previously
Wade Redden	23	D	People quickly forgot how good he was; very well-rounded with no single overwhelming strength and no obvious weakness
Charlie Huddy	12	D	Quiet, consistent blueliner who was a solid contributor to the Oilers dynasty
Terry Harper	11	D	Steady minute-munching blueliner
Alexei Kasatanov	8	D	One of the greatest Soviet players; a balanced and dependable blueliner
Martin Brodeur	7	G	Hall of Famer; one of the top seven (or so) goalies of all-time
Tom Barasso	6	G	Probably should be in the Hall of Fame; prickly personality but had a high peak and was generally good in the playoffs

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Total = $489

Another possibility for this team is Scott Stevens. If you add him in place of Terry Harper you'd be up to 548 games. Drop Glen Anderson and add someone who played up to 3 games (maybe Gary Leeman - three 30 goal seasons, peaking at 51). This gets you to exactly $500. Good luck scoring on Brodeur playing in front of Harvey, Stevens and Kastanov. You'd still have five HOF forwards (including the greatest of all-time) but the bottom five forwards are noticeably weaker than the Leafs and Rangers.

 

[ovikovy817]

Washington Capitals

196$
Trevor Linden (28) - Sergei Fedorov (70) - Rick Tocchet (13)
Rod Seiling (1) - Roman Hamrlik (72)
Halak (12)

196$
Marco Sturm (18) - Jason Arnott (11) - Rick Tocchet (13)
Rod Seiling (1) - Phil Housley (141)
Halak (12)

198$
Trevor Linden (28) - Sergei Fedorov (70) - Jason Arnott (11)
Rod Seiling (1) - Garry Galley (76)
Halak (12)

There is also Huet (13) as an option for G

 

[Genuflexion]

F
Peter Bondra - 23

F
Pavol Demitra - 59

F
Marian Gaborik - 16

D
Greg De Vries - 13

D


G
Dominik Hasek - 43

Stumped as to who to put at second D, but that's $154

 

[The Tourist]

I did this a couple weeks ago on twitter and this is what I came up with.

Dallas
F - Jaromir Jagr $34
F - Eric Lindros $49
F - Sergei Makarov $4
D - Sergei Gonachar $79
D - Jyrki Lumme $15
G - Tim Thomas $8

$11 left

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Really tough for Detroit. Have to go way back before my time.

All the guys that come to mind for me played nearly a full season or more. Alfredsson, Modano, Cujo, Hossa etc.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

Modano-40
Alfredsson-68
Hossa-74 (1134 pts) OR B.Federko-73 (1130 pts)

Dmitri Mironov-11
Doug Harvey-2

Ranford-4

$199(with Hossa)/$198(with Federko)

 

[The Tourist]

$200 game is for wimps, how about a $500 game for an entire position-minded roster?

Canucks:

Geoff Sanderson	22	Mats Sundin	41	Rick Vaive	47
Thomas Vanek	61	Derek Roy	12	Jimmy Carson	34
Martin Rucinsky	13	Michael Peca	37	Michael Grabner	20
Marco Sturm	6	Samuel Pahlsson	19	Sergei Nemchinov	6
Matthieu Schneider	17			Jeff Brown	72
Keith Carney	18			Doug Bodger	13
Marc Bergevin	9			Ossi Vannanen	3
		Sean Burke	16
		Johan Hedberg	21

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Total: $487

Dallas

Sergei Makarov (4) - Eric Lindros (49) - Jaromir Jagr (34)
Mats Zuccarello (2) - Claude Lemieux (32) - Mike Gartner (80)
Shayne Corson (17) - Derek Roy (30)- Valeri Bure (13)
Todd Fedoruk (11)- Brendan Morrison (19)- Randy McKay (14)


Sergei Gonchar (79) - Teppeo Numminen (62)
Jyrkki Lumme (15) - Willie Mitchell (16)
Lyle Odelein (3) - Kris Russell (11)

Tim Thomas (8)
Jack Campbell (1)

Total: $500

 

[brachyrynchos]

Detroit:
Modano 40
W Clark 12
T Sandstrom 34
D Hatcher 15
U Samuelsson 4
C Joseph 92
$197

 

[brachyrynchos]

Atlanta:
Tkachuk 18
Rucchin 47
Recchi 53
Chelios 7
Schneider 44
Dunham 17
$186.
Could swap out Mathieu Schneider for Uwe Krupp $4 and replace Dunham with Byron DaFoe $35.

 

[Bruinaura]

Lots of people taking Paul Coffey because of his brief stints with their team but you are getting credit for their entire career so do you really want Paul Coffey? Probably not --he was brutal for a long time at the end and only stuck around the league because of his name.

I'll take my chances when looking at his overall career...

 

[BritainStix]

Is it safe to say that the worse your team is the better your front office?

 

[RandV]

Is it safe to say that the worse your team is the better your front office?

Not necessarily. It's an interesting time waster because it's largely an exercise of digging for 'remember when x played for y', where the top players are typically guys who spent their twilight season on a team and the secondary talent one-off trade deadline acquisitions. Doesn't have to be and there's a lot of luck but that's typically the mark of a good team.

Anyways in addition to Vancouver I finished off the Canadian teams, minus Quebec and Winnipeg, on the 500 point scale. I don't know much prior to the 80's so avoided those players (and kind of an unfair advantage to the O6) unless they're obvious legends. Also didn't take any players that are still accumulating GP with their respective team. So in no particular order:

Geoff Sanderson	22	Mats Sundin	41	Rick Vaive	47
Thomas Vanek	61	Derek Roy	12	Jimmy Carson	34
Martin Rucinsky	13	Michael Peca	37	Michael Grabner	20
Marco Sturm	6	Samuel Pahlsson	19	Sergei Nemchinov	6
Matthieu Schneider	17			Jeff Brown	72
Keith Carney	18			Doug Bodger	13
Marc Bergevin	9			Ossi Vannanen	3
		Sean Burke	16
		Johan Hedberg	21
Total					487

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Joe Nieuwndyk	64	Eric Lindros	33	Owen Nolan	79
Oli Jokinen	6	Ron Francis	12	Marian Statsny	70
Milan Michalek	18	Tomas Plekanec	17	Mariusz Czerkawski	19
Basil McRae	4	Mike Peca	35	Eric Fehr	5
Briah Leetch	15			Jeff Brown	19
Phil Housley	1			Calle Johansson	8
Glen Wesley	7			Eric Brewer	18
		Bernie Parrent	65
		Tom Barrasso	4
Total					499

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Sergei Samsonov	19	Adam Oates	60	Petr Sykora	82
Geoff Courtnall	12	Petr Nedved	35	Ray Whitney	9
Martin Rucinsky	2	German Titov	7	Ales Kotalik	19
Valentin Zykov	5	Jesse Belanger	6	Adam Cracknell	8
Joni Pitkanen	63			Chris Pronger	80
Jordan Oesterle	25			Jason Garrison	17
Michel Petit	18			Alexander Petrovic	9
		Ilya Bryzgalov	20
		Martin Gerber	3
Total					499

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Martin St.Louis	69	Chris Drury	80	Brett Hull	57
Fredrik Modin	4	Ron Sutter	21	Jaromir Jagr	22
Chris Higgins	12	Bob Sweeney	6	Owen Nolan	77
Stu Grimson	4	Brian Skrudland	16	Chris Stewart	7
Brad Stuart	27			Dalton Prout	20
Bryan Marchment	37			Mike Mottau	4
Nicklas Grossman	3			Brad Ference	5
		Curtis Joseph	9
		Nicklas Backstrom	4
Total					484

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Pavol Demitra	59	Joe Juneau	65	Marian Gaborik	16
Cory Stillman	24	Martin Straka	49	Peter Bondra	23
Ted Donato	13	Scott Gomez	13	Nelson Emerson	3
Brooks Laich	1	Kevin Miller	9	Martin Lapointe	18
Johnny Oduya	51			Jason Smith	63
Greg De Vries	13			Mike Commodore	26
Bobby Dollas	1			Stefan Elliot	3
		Dominik Hasek	43
		Tom Barrasso	7
Total					500

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Sergei Samsonov	63	Daniel Briere	69	Thomas Vanek	18
Alex Tanguay	50	Robert Lang	50	Alexander Semin	15
Sergei Berezin	29	Craig Conroy	13	Ales Hemsky	7
Nigel Dawes	4	Jim Dowd	14	Steve Ott	11
Sergei Gonchar	45			Zarley Zalapski	28
Janne Niinimaa	41			Rob Ramage	14
Robert Dirk	3			Brent Sopel	12
		Tony Esposito	13
		Tomas Vokoun	1
Total					500

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[JianYang]

I'm gonna go non active players with the habs:

G: Esposito (13)
D: Gonchar (45)
D: Sergechev (4)
F: Boudrias (4)
F: Turgeon (102)
F: Vanek (18)

Total: 186

 

[Gizmo Tkachuk]

Dino Ciccarelli (42) - Alex Kovalev (14) - Thomas Vanek (20)
Sandis Ozolinsh (88) - Randy Moller (17)
Antti Niemi (2)

Total: 183

 

[qwerty]

St Louis (69) - Jagr (22) - Hull (57)

Brad Stuart (27) - Rik Wilson (2)

Fuhr (23)

Total: $200


4 Hall of Famers & 4816 points between them

 

[CallArnoldSlick]

Luc Robitaille ($46) - Jarome Iginla ($13) - Marian Hossa ($12)
Sergei Zubov ($64) - Lyle Odelein ($27)
Tomas Vokoun ($20)

Total: $182

My limited knowledge of Hockey History probably let me down here so I'm sure someone could improve the team. If a centre was needed then Eddie Olczyk ($68) seems like the obvious option though you'd have to replace Odelein with someone cheaper like Ron Hainsey ($16).

Tim Horton is a good D option

 

[Elvs]

Dany Heatley ($6) - Doug Weight ($38) - David Perron ($28)
Mathieu Schneider ($65) - Stephane Robidas ($14)
Ryan Miller ($48)

Total = $199

 

[Benchguy]

I’d be curious see Arizona’s line up

They should be good with a free datsyuk, free pronger, cheap Hull, etc

 

[RandV]

I think I found a winner:

Brian Propp	14	Robert Lang	3	Jaromir Jagr	11
Marcus Johansson	10	Michael Nylander	15	Rick Nash	11
Brian Lawton	8	Ron Sutter	18	Dave Scatchard	16
Kenny Agostino	5	Samuel Pahlsson	17	Nate Thompson	4
Paul Coffey	18			Al Iafrate	12
Wade Redden	6			Jeff Norton	3
Matt Irwin	2			Steve Montador	13
		Jacques Plante	8
		Marty Turco	5
Total					199

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