THE 2-PER-DECADE DRAFT: An All-Time 2-week HOLIDAY Game (from Dec. 18th to Dec 31st)

[VanIslander]

The 2-PER-DECADE DRAFT

10 days of double picks (2 picks per day any time after 7 a.m. Pacific; 10 a.m. Eastern).

Draft 12 F, 6 D, 2 G from the 20th century.

The kicker: ONLY TWO players from each decade are to be selected (a player who played in part of 5 seasons in any 0 to 9 decade - e.g., 1930-1939 - qualifies).

Day 11 is Voting Day.

Day 12 is the semi-final.

Day 13 is Voting Day.

Day 14 is the championship final.

Then we cheerfully herald in the new year! (er, with masks on, socially distanced, windows open for circulation, attendance optional.)

OTHER RULES:

No 1890s, 2000s, 2010s. Let's keep this simple and elegant. A full 20-player squad representing 2 players from every decade of the 20th century.

A GM can claim (when picking) a player representing ANY decade in which they played part of 5 seasons (decade from Jan 1st 00 to Dec 31st 09). But you MUST indicate which decade when you pick and stick with it.

Only one of the Big Four can be drafted per team on DAY 1.

That's it. All the groundrules.

Now let's have a good draft!

Remember: simply make up any picks you may have skipped the next day (go zero one day, four the next, if you are in a holiday crunch, though it is a quick and relatively easy draft, so 5 to 10 minutes a day is all that's needed - you're likely to think about options in your head when offline anyways!)

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[VanIslander]

The 2-PER DECADE DRAFT

DAY 1

Habsfan18 - Cleveland Crusaders - Bobby Orr (1970s), Jean Beliveau (1950s)
ted2019 - Philadelphia Firebirds - Mario Lemieux (1980s), Doug Harvey (1950s)
Johnny Engine - Freshwater Bogtrotters - Gordie Howe (1950s), Eddie Shore (1930s)
VanIslander - Sarnia Sting - Wayne Gretzky (1980s), Maurice Richard (1940s),

DAY 2

Habsfan18 - Cleveland Crusaders - Raymond Bourque (1980s), Jaromir Jagr (1990s)
Johnny Engine - Freshwater Bogtrotters - Denis Potvin (1970s), Bobby Clarke (1970s)
ted2019 - Philadelphia Firebirds - Bobby Hull (1960s), Red Kelly (1960s)
VanIslander - Sarnia Sting - Stan Mikita (1960s), Frank Nighbor (1920s)

DAY 3

Habsfan18 - Cleveland Crusaders - Larry Robinson (1970s), Mark Messier (1980s).
ted2019 - Philadelphia Firebirds - Sprague Cleghorn (1910s), Jari Kurri (1980s)
Johnny Engine - Freshwater Bogtrotters - Patrick Roy (1990s), Ted Lindsay (1950s).
VanIslander - Sarnia Sting - Dominik Hasek (1990s), Bill Cook (1930s).

DAY 4

ted2019 - Philadelphia Firebirds - Bryan Trottier (1970s), Chris Pronger (1990s).
VanIslander - Sarnia Sting - Nicklas Lidstrom (1990s), Brad Park (1970s).
Johnny Engine - Freshwater Bogtrotters - Slava Fetisov (1980s), Howie Morenz (1930s).
Habsfan18 - Cleveland Crusaders - Scott Stevens (1990s), Charlie Conacher (1930s).

DAY 5

ted2019 - Philadelphia Firebirds - Guy Lafleur (1970s), Busher Jackson (1930s).
VanIslander - Sarnia Sting - Chris Chelios (1980s), King Clancy (1920s).
Johnny Engine - Freshwater Bogtrotters - Hod Stuart (1900s), Newsy Lalonde (1910s).
Habsfan18 - Cleveland Crusaders - Syd Howe (1940s), Dave Keon (1960s).

We are halfway through.
It's getting tougher.
Let's finish strong!

DAY 6

ted2019 - Philadelphia Firebirds - Tommy Phillips (1900s), Nels Stewart (1920s).
VanIslander - Sarnia Sting - Bernie Geoffrion (1950s), Ted Kennedy (1940s)
Johnny Engine - Freshwater Bogtrotters - Earl Seibert (1940s), Aurel Joliat (1920s).
Habsfan18 - Cleveland Crusaders - Toe Blake (1940s), Frank Boucher (1920s).

DAY 7

Habsfan18 - Cleveland Crusaders - Eddie Gerard (1910s), Jacques Plante (1950s)
Johnny Engine - Freshwater Bogtrotters - Jack Walker (1910s), Sid Abel (1940s)
ted2019 - Philadelphia Firebirds - Joe Sakic (1990s), Bryan Hextall (1940s)
VanIslander - Sarnia Sting - Dickie Moore (1950s), Cy Denneny (1910s)

DAY 8

ted2019 - Philadelphia Firebirds - Georges Boucher (1920s), Clint Benedict (1910s).
VanIslander - Sarnia Sting - Dit Clapper (1930s), Tim Horton (1960s).
Johnny Engine - Freshwater Bogtrotters - Boris Mikhailov (1960s), Percy Leseur (1900s).
Habsfan18 - Cleveland Crusaders - Frank Mahovlich (1960s), Johnny Gottselig (1930s).

DAY 9

Johnny Engine - Freshwater Bogtrotters - Hooley Smith (1920s), Henri Richard (1960s).
VanIslander - Sarnia Sting - Didier Pitre (1900s), Georges Vezina (1910s).
Habsfan18 - Cleveland Crusaders - Babe Dye (1920s), Hugh Lehman (1910s).
ted2019 - Philadelphia Firebirds - Blair Russel (1900s), Cecil Dillon (1930s).

DAY 10

VanIslander - Sarnia Sting - Alf Smith (1900s), Valeri Kharlamov (1970s).
Habsfan18 - Cleveland Crusaders - Moose Johnson (1900s), Russell Bowie (1990s)
Johnny Engine - Freshwater Bogtrotters - Mike Bossy (1980s), Al MacInnis (1990s).
ted2019 - Philadelphia Firebirds - Jack Stewart (1940s), Glenn Hall (1950s).

Update your line-up TODAY.

And, if you'd like, post on the thread a self-assassination of your team's strengths & weaknesses.

TOMORROW is VOTING DAY
Send your vote to Theokritos.

 

[Johnny Engine]

The Freshwater Bogtrotters

Ted Lindsay (A) - Bobby Clarke (C) - Gordie Howe
Aurel Joliat - Howie Morenz - Mike Bossy
Sid Abel - Newsy Lalonde - Boris Mikhailov
Jack Walker - Henri Richard - Hooley Smith

Denis Potvin (A) - Eddie Shore
Slava Fetisov - Al MacInnis
Hod Stuart - Earl Seibert

Patrick Roy
Percy Leseur

Power Play:
Bossy
Shore - Morenz - Howe
MacInnis

Lalonde
Joliat - Lindsay - Clarke
Potvin

Penalty Kill:
Walker - Clarke
Potvin - Seibert

Richard - Smith
Fetisov - Shore

Extra PK Forward Pairs:
Abel - Mikhailov
Joliat - Morenz​

 

[VanIslander]

Sarnia Sting
captain Gretzky
alternates Kennedy, Lidstrom

Dickie Moore - Wayne Gretzky - Bill Cook
Valeri Kharlamov - Stan Mikita - Rocket Richard
Cy Denneny - Frank Nighbor - Bernie Geoffrion
Alf Smith - Ted Kennedy - Didier Pitre

Nick Lidstrom - Chris Chelios
King Clancy - Brad Park
Tim Horton - Dit Clapper

Dominik Hasek
Georges Vezina
​

PP1: Kharlamov - Gretzky - Richard - Lidstrom - Boom Boom
PP2: Denneny - Nighbor - Cook - Chelios - Clapper

PK1: Nighbor - Smith - Horton - Park - Hasek
PK2: Kennedy - Moore - Lidstrom - Chelios - Hasek

1990s: Dominik Hasek, Nicklas Lidstrom
1980s: Wayne Gretzky, Chris Chelios
1970s: Brad Park, Valeri Kharlamov
1960s: Stan Mikita, Tim Horton
1950s: Bernie Geoffrion, Dickie Moore
1940s: Maurice Richard, Ted Kennedy
1930s: Bill Cook, Dit Clapper
1920s: Frank Nighbor, King Clancy
1910s: Cy Denneny, Georges Vezina
1900s: Didier Pitre, Alf Smith

 

[Habsfan18]

Cleveland Crusaders

Captain: Jean Beliveau
Alternate: Mark Messier
Alternate: Ray Bourque

Syd Howe - Jean Beliveau (C) - Jaromir Jagr
Toe Blake - Mark Messier (A) - Charlie Conacher
Frank Mahovlich - Frank Boucher - Babe Dye
Johnny Gottselig - Dave Keon - Russell Bowie

Larry Robinson - Bobby Orr
Scott Stevens - Ray Bourque (A)
Moose Johnson - Eddie Gerard

Jacques Plante
Hugh Lehman

PP1: Messier - Beliveau - Jagr - Bourque - Orr

PP2: Mahovlich - Boucher - Conacher - Robinson - Stevens

PK1: Keon - Gottselig - Robinson - Bourque

PK2: Messier - Boucher - Stevens - Orr

1900’s: Johnson, Bowie
1910’s: Gerard, Lehman
1920’s: Boucher, Dye
1930’s: Conacher, Gottselig
1940’s: Howe, Blake
1950’s: Beliveau, Plante
1960’s: Keon, Mahovlich
1970’s: Orr, Robinson
1980’s: Bourque, Messier
1990’s: Jagr, Stevens

​

 

[VanIslander]

Let's assume a player learns more from experience, so he probably brings intangibles with age: a veteran advantage (tiebreaker).

 

[VanIslander]

We need one more at least.

We have until December 15th to get a guy.

 

[ted2019]

Philadelphia Firebirds
Captain: Mario Lemieux
Assistant Captain: Joe Sakic
Assistant Captain: Chris Pronger

Bobby Hull - Mario Lemieux - Jari Kurri
Busher Jackson - Joe Sakic - Guy Lafleur
Tommy Phillps - Nels Stewart - Bryan Hextall Sr.
Blair Russel -Bryan Trottier- Cecil Dillon

Sprague Cleghorn - Doug Harvey
Chris Pronger - Red Kelly
Georges Boucher -Blackjack Stewart

Glenn Hall
Clint Benedict

PP1: Hull - Lemieux - Lafleur
Pronger - Harvey

PP2: Jackson - Sakic - Stewart
Kelly- Hextall Sr.

PK1: Russel - Trottier
Pronger- Stewart

PK2: Kurri - Sakic
Cleghorn - Boucher

If down in the last 2 minutes of a period, the lines will be as such.

Bobby Hull - Mario Lemieux - Guy Lafleur
Busher Jackson - Joe Sakic - Bryan Hextall Sr.
Nels Stewart - Bryan Trottier - Jari Kurri

If up in the last 2 minutes of a period, the lines will be as such.

Tommy Phillps - Bryan Trottier - Jari Kurri
Blair Russel - Joe Sakic - Cecil Dillon
Bobby Hull - Mario Lemieux - Bryan Hextall Sr.​

Estimated time chart

Player	ES	PP	PK	Total
Hull	16	5		21
Lemieux	16	6		22
Kurri	16		5	21
Jackson	13	4		17
Sakic	15	5	4	24
Lafleur	15	6		21
Phillps	12			12
N. Stewart	8	5		14
Hextall Sr.	10	5		15
Russel	9		5	14
Trottier	10		6	16
Dillon	9			9
Cleghorn	17		5	22
Harvey	17	5		22
Pronger	17	5	5	27
Kelly	17	5		22
Boucher	12		5	17
J. Stewart	12		5	17

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

1900: Tommy Phillips, Blair Russel
1910: Sprague Cleghorn, Clint Benedict
1920: Nels Stewart, Georges Boucher
1930: Busher Jackson, Cecil Dillon
1940: Bryan Hextall Sr., Blackjack Stewart
1950: Doug Harvey, Glenn Hall
1960: Bobby Hull, Red Kelly
1970: Bryan Trottier, Guy Lafleur
1980: Mario Lemieux, Jari Kurri
1990: Chris Pronger, Joe Sakic

​

 

[VanIslander]

Awesome! We are good to go.

 

[VanIslander]

EDIT: Choose which decade if he played 5 seasons in more than one decade.

 

[ChiTownPhilly]

Gretzky is 1980's.
Howe is 1950's (he won 5 of his 6 Harts that decade).
Roy & Forsberg are 1990's.
Dionne is 1980's.

Good idea to get as many of these out-of-the-way as possible, before people start picking. I'd strongly encourage other participants to bring up as many borderline cases as possible NOW, so that any potential controversies are averted. Another case-in-point: I guess we're going to say Lidström belongs to the next century and is thus excluded from being drafted(?) Then there's 'Gros Bil.'
1950s: AS 1,1,1,1,2, 3x Hart Finalist, 1 Hart.
1960s: AS 1,2,2,2, 4x Hart Finalist, 1 Hart.
Messier's classification might hinge on whether you count his 89-90 season as the last season of the eighties, OR the first season of the 90s. Larry Robinson sits on a comparable edge- one decade earlier.

Then there's Bill Cook- I have no dog in the fight, but one could, I think, at least make a case that he was stronger, relative to his peers, in the 20s in Saskatoon than he was in the 30s for the Rangers. [I believe it's been comfortably established that the Western League of that day was at least as strong as the NHA.]

Unfortunately, I don't think I could draft at the pace expected to make this come off- but I'll tune in, if for no other reason that to see what the eighth-most-desirable player from the decade 1900-1909 looks like.

Edit: before I go, I think I'd like to hear the reasoning behind classifying Dionne as belonging to the 80s. If we're counting 79-80 as part of the 80s, I can see it (if barely).

 

[Habsfan18]

Yzerman 80’s?

 

[VanIslander]

EDIT: You choose which decade if he played 5 seasons in each.

 

[VanIslander]

Delete

 

[tony d]

This sounds fun, I’ll join.

 

[VanIslander]

There should be ONE RESTRICTION:

No team could have more than one of "The Big Four" greatest players of all time (Howe, Orr, Gretzky, Lemieux). Day one at 7:01 a.m. Eastern could be a dogfight, but at most ONE of those four could be drafted per team on Day One (for competitiveness' sake). I hope everyone understands and agrees it makes sense.

 

[VanIslander]

The 5th greatest player of all time is VERY CONTESTED. So, if you draft two players as the 5th GM to pick (due to coming late), you may not get a consensus top 4 player but you could get the 5th & 6th ... or... 11th & 12th.... depending on opinion.

(I, as administrator, will not pick until 15 minutes after the draft clock begins on Day 1.)

The draft clock begins at 10am eastern, 7pm pacific every day. Many days you can pick any time during the day, but for Day One you want to be there.

 

[Hawkey Town 18]

So there is no draft order? It's just a race to see who can post their picks first?

 

[VanIslander]

So there is no draft order? It's just a race to see who can post their picks first?

We have done this before.

After day one, opinions vary!

Roy or Hasek?
Nighbor or Clarke?
Sakic or Yzerman?
Schmidt or Boucher?
Kurri or Bossy?

If you don't like the premise, sit back and watch.

 

[Hawkey Town 18]

We have done this before.

After day one, opinions vary!

Roy or Hasek?
Nighbor or Clarke?
Sakic or Yzerman?
Schmidt or Boucher?
Kurri or Bossy?

If you don't like the premise, sit back and watch.

I was just asking because I wasn't sure, no need to get defensive.

 

[VanIslander]

No need to get defensive about me getting defensive.

I put a lot of work/time into this. More time than work 'cuz it's fun! Let's rock 'n roll!

 

[Habsfan18]

I may have to back out. I completely understand if we’re going with the “rush to pick” format instead of a straight draft order but my work schedule makes that pretty tough to compete. I wouldn’t be online until hours into the clock starting each day. I misunderstood the pick format. I’ll follow along though!

 

[VanIslander]

I'll pick at the end of day one.

There are so many equivalent value options after day one. Timing won't be as important with only a few GMs and 2 picks at a time.

Is Messier & Kelly better or worse than Lafleur & Lidstrom or 2 picks of Jagr & Shore?

Team building chemistry will be the difference. Everyone will have great line-ups!

Pick when it's convenient. No waiting. We did this years ago and it worked like a charm. It's a more relaxed fun draft.

 

[ted2019]

I'm backing out as well.

 

[VanIslander]