TGO's top 50

[CH Wizard]

1. Erik Johnson
2. Phil Kessel
3. Nicklas Backstrom
4. Jonathan Toews
5. Jordan Staal
6. James Sheppard
7. Jiri Tlusty
8. Peter Mueller
9. Derrick Brassard
10.Bryan Little
11.Kyle Okposo
12.Chris Stewart
13.Bobby Sanguinetti
14.Michal Frolik
15.Ivan Vishnevsky
16.Ty Wishart
17.Jonathan Bernier
18. Patrik Berglund
19. Michal Grabner
20. Michael Forney
21. Riku Helenius
22. Claude Giroux
23. Ben Maxwell
24. Jesse Joenssu
25. Chris Summers
26. David Fischer
27. Nick Foligno
28. Codey Burki
29. Artem Anisimov
30. Cory Emmerton
31. Nigel Williams
32. Yuri Alexandrov
33. Dennis Persson
34. Alexander Vasyunov
35. Jamie McBain
36. Ben Shutron
37. Brian Strait
38. Leland Irving
39. Trevor Lewis
40. Jamie McGinn
41. Joe Ryan
42. Ryan White
43. Tomas Kana
44. Mark Mitera
45. Tomas Marcinko
46. Mike Weber
47. Vladimir Zharkov
48. Oskar Osala
49. John Armstrong
50. Jan Mikael Juutalainen


Players i'd include in my top 50 really easily:

Ondrej Fiala
David Ruzicka
Bobby Hughes
Bryce Swan
Cal Clutterbuck
Mike Ratchuk
Carl Sneep

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[txomisc]

Good list. I think Helenius goes before Bernier tho!

 

[Porn*]

whoa... i can assrue you frolik won't last that long and if he does the leafs better grab him at 13th.

 

[kruezer]

Good top 50, I would personally have Carl Sneep in my top 50, but thats the biggest difference we'd have in our lists.

 

[Prospector]

Very good list!

Just a question...

Why are you that high on Sheppard?

 

[CH Wizard]

Very good list!

Just a question...

Why are you that high on Sheppard?

Sheppard has no flaws in his game. His skating ain't perfect but no way is he slow. He's big, a really good playmaker and he has good positioning on the pp. He really impressed me in the prospects game. He's sure a top 10 talent in this draft. If a team picks him after the top 10, they're going to make a huge steal.

 

[FearTheFlyers]

Where are John Armstrong and Theo Peckham?

 

[CH Wizard]

Where are John Armstrong and Theo Peckham?

Armstrong is 49th.

I don't like Peckham at all, I wouldn't even rank him in my top 100. He's a good agitator/goon...but no thank you, personally i think he'll go very late during draft day.

 

[dunwoody_joe]

Sheppard has no flaws in his game. His skating ain't perfect but no way is he slow. He's big, a really good playmaker and he has good positioning on the pp. He really impressed me in the prospects game. He's sure a top 10 talent in this draft. If a team picks him after the top 10, they're going to make a huge steal.

In fact, one of the fastest at the Prospects game skill testing: http://mckeenshockey.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=960&CID=503856

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

whoa... i can assrue you frolik won't last that long and if he does the leafs better grab him at 13th.

If an Alexander Radulov can go 15th in a weak 2004 draft, a Frolik who hasn't done much in a year and half most certainly can fall and fall alot.

 

[FearTheFlyers]

I don't like Peckham at all, I wouldn't even rank him in my top 100. He's a good agitator/goon...but no thank you, personally i think he'll go very late during draft day.

You obviously don't know very much about him.

I guarantee he goes top 50.

 

[Corona-12]

If an Alexander Radulov can go 15th in a weak 2004 draft, a Frolik who hasn't done much in a year and half most certainly can fall and fall alot.

Have you seen Frolik actually play? Or are you just going by what you read?

Frolik might fall slightly, but not a chance he will fall past 14th.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Have you seen Frolik actually play? Or are you just going by what you read?

Frolik might fall slightly, but not a chance he will fall past 14th.

I've seen him at the WJC in North Dakota, the U-18 in the Czech Republic and the WJC in Vancouver. Basically every time TSN showed a game with the Czechs involved.

With every viewing I have been less and less impressed with Frolik and feel he was at his peak as a 16 year old at the North Dakota WJC. That's worrisome that he hasn't come anywhere near that level since then. I am not the only one who feels the same way on these boards.

I don't see how it's a lock he will be a top 14 pick. How exactly do we know if the Canucks like Frolik or not?

Every year there is always a highly touted prospect who was considered a ''lock'' to be a top 15 pick who falls for various reasons, this year it could very well be Frolik.

That said, if he is indeed coming to the Q next year that definitely will help him out.

 

[boredmale]

Why no love for Nigel Williams?

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

You obviously don't know very much about him.

I guarantee he goes top 50.

Good skill set but brains are a concern. From what I seen he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. In terms of raw ability he is fast, strong and should be putting up more points.

 

[Ghost of jas]

1. Erik Johnson
2. Phil Kessel
3. Nicklas Backstrom
4. Jonathan Toews
5. Jordan Staal
6. James Sheppard
7. Jiri Tlusty
8. Peter Mueller
9. Derrick Brassard
10.Bryan Little
11.Kyle Okposo
12.Chris Stewart
13.Bobby Sanguinetti
14.Michal Frolik
15.Ivan Vishnevsky
16.Ty Wishart
17.Jonathan Bernier
18. Patrik Berglund
19. Michal Grabner
20. Michael Forney
21. Riku Helenius
22. Claude Giroux
23. Ben Maxwell
24. Jesse Joenssu
25. Chris Summers
26. David Fischer
27. Nick Foligno
28. Codey Burki
29. Artem Anisimov
30. Cory Emmerton
31. Nigel Williams
32. Yuri Alexandrov
33. Dennis Persson
34. Alexander Vasyunov
35. Jamie McBain
36. Ben Shutron
37. Brian Strait
38. Leland Irving
39. Trevor Lewis
40. Jamie McGinn
41. Joe Ryan
42. Ryan White
43. Tomas Kana
44. Mark Mitera
45. Tomas Marcinko
46. Mike Weber
47. Vladimir Zharkov
48. Oskar Osala
49. John Armstrong
50. Jan Mikael Juutalainen


Players i'd include in my top 50 really easily:

Ondrej Fiala
David Ruzicka
Bobby Hughes
Bryce Swan
Cal Clutterbuck
Mike Ratchuk
Carl Sneep

Your thoughts on Berglund, and where have you seen him play?

 

[Lars]

From A Canucks Standpoint, Frolik at 14th is a steaaaal

 

[Boomhower]

Good skill set but brains are a concern. From what I seen he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. In terms of raw ability he is fast, strong and should be putting up more points.

Are you talking about the same guy?

Peckham is a defensive defenceman all the way and is anything but fast, lead footed would be a more accurate description.
But he's actually smart positionally and at reading the play, which is why he is still effective in his own zone.

Peckham is a guy who GM's/scouts will have very different opinions on, similiar to what were seeing in this thread. Some might have him top 50, others might not think much of him at all.

 

[FearTheFlyers]

Are you talking about the same guy?

Peckham is a defensive defenceman all the way and is anything but fast, lead footed would be a more accurate description.
But he's actually smart positionally and at reading the play, which is why he is still effective in his own zone.

Peckham is a guy who GM's/scouts will have very different opinions on, similiar to what were seeing in this thread. Some might have him top 50, others might not think much of him at all.

Jason is right in the sense that Theo really really improved his skating and movement this year.