OT: Teh Philadelphia Severty Sixers: Let’s Do This For JS’s Goodest and Bestest Boy

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deadhead

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Matisse is going to be really good in a year or two, right now he's overplaying a lot, still figuring out how to play NBA man to man, deal with screens, etc.
And of course like all college shooters, he's still adjusting to the NBA 3 point distance.
But how many rookies have you ever seen play this kind of defense? Even RoCo took 2-3 years to reach this level.
 

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Matisse is going to be really good in a year or two, right now he's overplaying a lot, still figuring out how to play NBA man to man, deal with screens, etc.
And of course like all college shooters, he's still adjusting to the NBA 3 point distance.
But how many rookies have you ever seen play this kind of defense? Even RoCo took 2-3 years to reach this level.

I was having this conversation with a friend today.

Embiid was the best Rookie I can personally remember on that end of the court. I doubt anyone will ever touch him because of the unique combination of talent and Minutes restrictions causing him to essentially ignore the risk of Fouling and just go for everything. He averaged over 3.6 Fouls in 25 Minutes!
 
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I was having this conversation with a friend today.

Embiid was the best Rookie I can personally remember on that end of the court. I doubt anyone will ever touch him because of the unique combination of talent and Minutes restrictions causing him to essentially ignore the risk of Fouling and just go for everything. He averaged over 3.6 Fouls in 25 Minutes!

He also had the advantage of being... really tall. I’ve never seen a rookie play defense like Matisse. And the scary thing is that he will get better. Future DPOY candidate.
 
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I mean you could say Pelle does the same thing as Embiid as a rookie, just a bit exaggerated.
But fly swatting is great, but not real "defense," in the sense of guarding players, etc.

Thybelle still has a lot of work ahead of him, calming down, not trying to block everything, avoid the cheap fouls, better footwork, etc.
But what a great start.

It hurt to see Shamet out there, but does say something about how much the Sixers' scouting has improved.
 
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I mean you could say Pelle does the same thing as Embiid as a rookie, just a bit exaggerated.
But fly swatting is great, but not real "defense," in the sense of guarding players, etc.

Oh no. No no no. With Rookie Embiid on the court, opponents shot 45.9% at the rim and 43.7% from less than 6'. Gobert was clear of the rest of the league at the rim by a ridiculous 2%. Embiid was a further ~2% better than Gobert.

That's completely off the charts and he had the 2016-17 Sixers around him. He's as similar to Pelle as he is to Michael Jordan in that they all dribbled sometimes and have nothing else in common.
 

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Oh no. No no no. With Rookie Embiid on the court, opponents shot 45.9% at the rim and 43.7% from less than 6'. Gobert was clear of the rest of the league at the rim by a ridiculous 2%. Embiid was a further ~2% better than Gobert.

That's completely off the charts and he had the 2016-17 Sixers around him. He's as similar to Pelle as he is to Michael Jordan in that they all dribbled sometimes and have nothing else in common.

Embiid also showed the ability to defend against guards on the perimeter. That’s not something you want to see Pelle doing.
 

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I love those goofy things. Agreed on Durant. I started with him and two 5s and worked from there.

Jordan 5
LeBron 5
Dirk 2
Garnett 2
Durant 1

Since there wasn’t anything resembling a big in the $1 tier, I couldn’t even consider making Bird work. I preferred to get Duncan as my big, but it would cost me Dirk and that can’t happen. I did think about Russell instead of Garnett, but unless someone has Shaq, Garnett can stand up to everyone else at the rim. If they have Shaq, they’re missing a second $5 player and that can’t be right. Plus I don’t think Russell or anyone else short of Olajuwon has a chance at stopping Shaq.
 

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I love those goofy things. Agreed on Durant. I started with him and two 5s and worked from there.

Jordan 5
LeBron 5
Dirk 2
Garnett 2
Durant 1

Since there wasn’t anything resembling a big in the $1 tier, I couldn’t even consider making Bird work. I preferred to get Duncan as my big, but it would cost me Dirk and that can’t happen. I did think about Russell instead of Garnett, but unless someone has Shaq, Garnett can stand up to everyone else at the rim. If they have Shaq, they’re missing a second $5 player and that can’t be right. Plus I don’t think Russell or anyone else short of Olajuwon has a chance at stopping Shaq.

garnett can stand up to anyone not named Anthony peeler or Antonio Mcdyess.




Garnett is such a bitch


wilt can handle shaq

 
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Best combo that I could think of that would be elite on the perimeter and in the paint both offensively and defensively.
 
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