Team with a brighter future? SJS v OTT

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Better future?

  1. Ottawa

    66.3%
  2. San Jose

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  1. snipes

    snipes Registered User

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    Ottawa presently have San Jose’s unprotected 1st in the upcoming draft.

    Both bottom 5 teams. Which team has the better future?
     
  2. Rebels57

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    I'll go with the team that isn't owned by Melnyk.
     
  3. snipes

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    A legit factor to consider
     
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    The Sharks have good young pieces still and have players that have proven something in the league. Ottawa is just "we could get better".
     
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    San Jose. Until Ottawa gets a new owner, I’d rank them at the bottom
     
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    Nobody would want their team owned by Melnyk, but in terms of team success, Ottawa probably has a brighter future at the moment. Some of those contracts on San Jose are going to destroy them for like a half decade or more. They're completely untradeable and will leave them in a perpetual state of never being good, but never being bad enough to get better. Their prospect pool does not help.
     
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    OTT has a clean cap sheet and good young pieces. Its better than aging roster with not much room to maneuver cap wise.
     
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    Anybody voting for Ottawa isn't properly considering the impact of Eugene Melnyk.
     
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    Kamiccolo Hockey is back

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    Or maybe you guys are forgetting about the " five-year run of unparalleled success".
     
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    NyQuil F.Y.R.O.U.S.

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    SJ until new ownership in Ottawa.
     
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    Still not giving up on the Karlsson/Burns pairing. SJ should be one of the very top contenders in the league this year - so based on that i pick them
     
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    They may be even today, or this season...but two lottery picks will change things pretty quickly.
     
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    Ownership aside I'd rather have Ottawa's situation. But as long as Eugene is still around I'll vote for the Sharks.
     
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    San Jose
    - Centre depth
    - Classy organization
    - California
    - Expectation for success
     
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    No cap obligations, Tkachuk and chabot as starting cornerstones, two big time 1st rounders this year in a deep draft, 3 2nds this year including Columbus', some big trade chips at this deadline most notably Pageau and Tierney and Demelo (the latter two from the Sharks).

    Literally the only downside right now is Melnyk and Detroit sucking like a vacuum.

    Can Melnyk screw up a burn it to the ground rebuild that actually appears to be on the right track? Call the CSI team in and let's find out!
     
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    With a different owner the correct answer is Ottawa AINEC.
     
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    SJS are not very good lol

    they have burns, Karlsson and couture, that’s an aging core, 3/4 years time the majority will be dead weight

    Prospects? Merkley Is a solid one and they have older kids tearing up their draft plus one and two year, which tbh tends to not mean anything, ie. Adam brooks (there are exceptions, ie. mark stone, albeit rare)

    their contracts are going to hurt them and their cupboards are pretty much empty and they have one first round pick player left from the last 4 years (traded Norris), not to mention a huge regression from jones and Meier

    while Ottawa has melnyk they have a lot of promising prospects in every league.

    SJS is fizzling out and the Sens have nowhere to go but up so I’ll (hesitantly of course) take them
     
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    SJ until Melnyk doesn’t own the Sens.
     
  19. WetcoastOrca

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    Ottawa has some great young pieces and will get two more in the draft. Even with Melnyk as owner they should have a brighter future than San Jose which has so much cap tied up in three players and too many older players and a shallow prospect pool overall.
     
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    Short term San Jose still has alot going for them and it was only a month ago they were considered a cup contender. Long term all signs point to Ottawa, but that's harder to predict
     
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    Ottawa already has the better team so I don't see why they wouldn't have a better future
     
  22. dukeofjive

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    Even with melnyk as there owner, ottawa has been great at finding gems in most draft and producing a lot of very good players.
     
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    And what do you think that owner does with all those good young pieces?
     
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    Considering ownership, SJ. If OTT spends some money, them.
     
  25. NeverForget06

    NeverForget06 Here we go again !

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    San Jose is a great organization. You don't continuing succeeding the way they have for years and years and years without the proper people commanding the ship.

    I think there will be a time when Ottawa may be better than SJ, because the Sens have reached their bottom now, whereas SJ isn't into a full rebuild yet.

    Overall though, I would trust the ownership and front office of San Jose over that of Ottawa
     

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