Team Switzerland must play in World Cup20?

[JackSlater]

I don't know if Switzerland must play, but actual national teams should play in what is meant to be (and presented as) an international tournament. Switzerland should have been in the 2016 World Cup.

 

[Hinterland]

Switzerland could make a pretty good team from their NHL and NLA players right now, not to mention in 2020 when they could have young promising guys like Nussbaumer, Kurashev and Eggenberger on the roster too.

Them, along with Denmark, Germany and Latvia should all definitely have their own teams next time around.

I agree. With everybody available, we could ice:

Meier, Corvi, Niederreiter
Bärtschi, Malgin, Andrighetto
Fiala, Hischier, Fazzini
Hofmann, Suter, Haas
Herzog, Vermin, Scherwey

Josi, Weber
Müller, Sbisa
Kukan, Sutter
Siegenthaler, Fora

That's four almost equally strong lines/pairings. They're either NHL-players, are good enough to play there now or in the near future (okay okay, I will admit that's ambitious for Herzog and Scherwey^^) . The difficulty will probably be to bring them all together like for this world championships. It's the first time it worked.

 

[kabidjan18]

This should be indisputable.

Team NA was a wet dream to watch, but contributed to a cascade of other events that made the tournament less meaningful.

 

[maclean]

I'd always thought one of Team Switzerland's strengths was that the team plays together a lot and thus is gelled and well coordinated. Bringing in the players that don't get to play with the national team much could potentially disrupt that, just a thought. Of course, I consider the World Cup a joke tournament, so whatevs.

 

[babylonzoo]

The formula for the World Cup has not been set yet. Hopefully it will be a normal tournament.

Let's see if there is a lockout

 

[Tomas W]

The Swiss do have a number of NHLers, and should be a market for the NHL to aim as well. I was suprised that they didint get invited last time around.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

No one likes Team Europe and Team NA.

I’d rather see Andorra and Madagascar than Team Europe and Team NA.

I dunno. Team NA player the most entertaining hockey of the tournament. It was fun to see.

 

[SympathyForTheDevils]

They absolutely should. Unfortunately, they won't. The reason for the Team Europe monstrosity was most likely that those countries can't field majority NHL rosters. And the World Cup is an NHL event. Unless that changes, I doubt we'll see the Swiss team there.

 

[Partagas]

They absolutely should. Unfortunately, they won't. The reason for the Team Europe monstrosity was most likely that those countries can't field majority NHL rosters. And the World Cup is an NHL event. Unless that changes, I doubt we'll see the Swiss team there.

No, it's only a matter of time.Switzerland is , after 2 silvermedal in five years, already clear n.7 in W.hockey Ranking.This year 15 swiss players have played almost one game in Nhl.In five years there will be 25/30 swiss players in Nhl.

 

[holyprime]

No, they must not: The regular season in the NLA starts in the beginning of September. Why should it stop or handicap the teams who have to send their best players to an absolutely meaningless and arbitrary private pre-season tournament (almost) no one in Switzerland cares about?

It would be a different discussion if the tournament could be taken seriously (like, not pre-season invitational mickey mouse stuff) and is not just a sorry excuse for the NHL blocking the players from participating in the Olympics. But right now as a swiss it is just not interesting at all. Actually it wouldn't be a discussion then, because if this were the case, there would be a mechanism in place that defines which (top 6/top 8/top whatever/qualification round/etc) team participates and not the arbitrary "we expect to make more money like this" nonsense that defines the "World Cup" of hockey right now.

All just imho ofc, i'm not speaking for my fellow country(wo)men.

</rant off>

 

[Eye of Ra]

Versus A teams?
I'm not sure the A swiss team can compete.
Maybe in 5 years if we can keep producing 1st and/or 2nd rounders every years.

so who should be the 7th and 8th team in world cup then? gimmick teams, no thanks.

its either swiss, denmark, slovakia or germany or even latvia.

 

[Eye of Ra]

Hiller
Genoni
Berra

Josi - Weber
Muller - Sbisa
Kukan - Diaz

Fiala - Hischier - Bärtschi
Nino - Malgin - Meier
Andrighetto - Corvi - Moser
Hofmann - Haas - Ambuhl

Not sure if Brunner still got it. Moser should be in NHL.

 

[Urbanskog]

The NHL should never host their ridiculous tournament again which will always be remembered as a laughing stock.

 

[Chimpradamus]

The NHL should never host their ridiculous tournament again which will always be remembered as a laughing stock.

 

[swissexpert]

Hiller
Genoni
Berra

Josi - Weber
Muller - Sbisa
Kukan - Diaz

Fiala - Hischier - Bärtschi
Nino - Malgin - Meier
Andrighetto - Corvi - Moser
Hofmann - Haas - Ambuhl

Not sure if Brunner still got it. Moser should be in NHL.

This is about 70% NHL and it's quite possible that maybe Corvi/Hofmann will get invitations by then.
Or some of the other guys like Thürkauf, Suter, Siegenthaler, Geisser, Suri, Richard, Senn will be included by then.
Or new talents: Kurashev, Gross, Eggenberger, Nussbaumer

All in all, there could be 80-90% NHL material and the team would definitely have more heart than a gimmick team of rivals.
I mean promotion does only work if the team is supportable. No german watches this just because Draisaitl plays on a weird team he doesn't care about (malicious gossip has it that he does already ).

 

[Jumptheshark]

Team Switzerland must play in World Cup20?

So should Germany
Take team out Europe.. last time I checked Europe is not a country and take out the under 23 team

 

[jonas2244]

This is about 70% NHL and it's quite possible that maybe Corvi/Hofmann will get invitations by then.
Or some of the other guys like Thürkauf, Suter, Siegenthaler, Geisser, Suri, Richard, Senn will be included by then.
Or new talents: Kurashev, Gross, Eggenberger, Nussbaumer

Suri? Add Rathgeb and Praplan to that list.

 

[swissexpert]

Suri? Add Rathgeb and Praplan to that list.

I was just listing some names on top of my head, who knows which players will ever play in the big league.
Suri once had an NHL contract but it doesn't sound too realistic anymore, you're right.

 

[Partagas]

so who should be the 7th and 8th team in world cup then? gimmick teams, no thanks.

its either swiss, denmark, slovakia or germany or even latvia.

I mean should be pretty clear wo is 7th in world cup: swi is 7th in iihf ranking, more nhl as the others country (Germany,Denmark,Slovakia or Latvia) 2 silver medal at the Iihf Worlds in the last 5 years. Germanys silver medal at the last Olympics without Nhl players is less worth.

 

[BruinLVGA]

Its worrying that one now have to take Switzerland seriously... This was a loooong evening with a lot of stress.
Shouldn't you be skiing, making chocolate or at least focus on football?
Its always nice to see other countries than the usual big 6 play in WHC but not when you playing that good.

We are too. In football, Switzerland has quite a strong team & many Swiss players play in the top leagues.

 

[salamandra]

I mean should be pretty clear wo is 7th in world cup: swi is 7th in iihf ranking, more nhl as the others country (Germany,Denmark,Slovakia or Latvia) 2 silver medal at the Iihf Worlds in the last 5 years. Germanys silver medal at the last Olympics without Nhl players is less worth.

This year 14 slovak players have played almost one game in NHL. Thats just one less like swiss. Next season Cernak, Pospisil and Studenic will play in AHL.
Some very good players in europe: Hrivik, Viedensky, Kristof, Cajkovsky, Ceresnak, Zaborsky, Reway, Hudacek, Krivosik.
New talents like Ruzicka, Bucek, Roman, Fehervary, Bodak, Cajkovic, Hrehorcak.

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

No one likes Team Europe and Team NA.

I’d rather see Andorra and Madagascar than Team Europe and Team NA.

Team Europe and Team NA were literally the highlights of World Cup 2016. Team NA was exciting AF and Team Europe against all odds was Carey Price GodMode away from winning the whole thing.

I say that as a Canadian.

 

[NyQuil]

Team Europe and Team NA were literally the highlights of World Cup 2016. Team NA was exciting AF and Team Europe against all odds was Carey Price GodMode away from winning the whole thing.

I say that as a Canadian.

I'm not speaking about their on-ice performance as much as it made a mockery of an international tournament.

If Team Europe won, I'm sure "Europeans" would have been really proud when they played the "European anthem" while the "European flag - those countries that represented themselves" was raised to the rafters.

The end result was meaningless as far as a best-on-best measuring stick goes.

The US in particular were critically handicapped by the existence of Team NA.

 

[cg98]

The Swiss should more than likely be at the next WCoH. This is the best shape Swiss hockey has been in for a while. Lots of solid young players developing well in their domestic league and translating it to international competition. Hischier in his prime will help too. If the Swiss dumped as much money into their junior development programs as they do with their domestic league theyd probably take over the Czechs spot in the big 6 within a few years.

 

[JETZZZ]

They absolutely should. Unfortunately, they won't. The reason for the Team Europe monstrosity was most likely that those countries can't field majority NHL rosters. And the World Cup is an NHL event. Unless that changes, I doubt we'll see the Swiss team there.

It makes you wonder why the NHL even wants to host a world cup in the first place. If they want to put together a pre season all star tournament, they should just do that. Make a best of 7 series with team Europe vs North America. They can use the same logos and uniforms from the gimmick teams in 2016, plaster them with ads to maximize revenue, play games in Beijing, then pat themselves on the back for "promoting their brand" overseas.
If they want to make a best-on-best international tournament, the 2 things they actually need is to have are national teams and 0 restrictions on rosters. Unfortunately, the NHL could not do either of these in 2016, and probably will find another way to screw it up in 2020.