Team Rankings: Deep, skilled prospect pool puts Tampa Bay Lightning in top spot

[RomersWorld*]

While being an Oilers fan, my girlfriend is a Rangers fan so I follow them closely. The Rangers farm being ranked 27th is a disgrace. HF constantly only looks at offense and they always vastly overrate Russian prospects who are soft and play no defense.

HF didn't even make mention of Allen who the Rangers signed from college and is an outstanding defenseman prospect. What is amusing is that the Rangers keep producing quality young players every year and these other organizations near the top continue to produce barely anything for young players. Yet, HF always ranks them high. Having the Red Wings 9th is a joke. I would take Oscar Lindberg over Anthony Mantha, Gustav Nyquist, Petr Mrazek, Tomas Tatar, and Calle Jarnkrok any day of the week.

Don't agree with a lot of what you said but it is kind of funny that Calle Jarnkrok was thought of as the next Zetterberg, potential top 6 stud center and Wings' #1 prospect when a guy like Oscar Lindberg was never talked about or highly thought of yet...

Same age, same size, same position, ect...

Oscar Lindberg
12-13(SEL): 55 GP, 17 goals, 25 assists, 42 points
12-13(SEL, playoffs): 13 GP, 4 goals, 8 assists, 12 points
13-14(AHL): 12 GP, 2 goals, 6 assists, 8 points

Calle Jarnkrok
12-13(SEL): 53 GP, 13 goals, 29 assists, 42 points
12-13(SEL, playoffs): 4 GP, 0 goals, 0 assists, 0 points
12-13(AHL): 9 GP, 0 goals, 3 assists, 3 points
13-14(AHL): 12 GP, 3 goals, 3 assists, 6 points

 

[Wingsfan2965*]

I would take Oscar Lindberg over Anthony Mantha, Gustav Nyquist, Petr Mrazek, Tomas Tatar, and Calle Jarnkrok any day of the week.

And you would be fired immediately.

 

[Benttheknee]

Ahh, it is as I suspected, Ottawa had a few graduations including Zibanejad, Wiercioch and Conacher.

Was surprised to see Boroweicki at 5th as he was listed as #13 in the fall list.

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

DeKeyser not in the Wings' top 5 is nonsense. Complete nonsense.

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

When will this happen exactly? Edler is locked up for the next 5 years, Garrison for the next 4 and Hamhuis/Bieksa until 2017 with Tanev/Stanton already with the big club and Corrado is already NHL calibre but because of the great depth he is in the AHL.

For forwards the Sedins will be here until 2019 and havent shown signs of slowing down, Kassian is hitting his stride and Kesler is locked up until 2016.

Horvat could easily be ready as early as next season and the same could be said for Jensen and Gaunce. Shinkaruk could be another year after them.

Why do fans look only at a teams prospect pool and decide they are in for, "dark times"?

Calgary fan, wants us to go through the same thing they have endured/are enduring.

 

[TylerSVT*]

Calgary fan, wants us to go through the same thing they have endured/are enduring.

It's a matter of time.

 

[Mit Yarrum]

McNabb over Pysyk is simply incorrect.

 

[CanadienShark]

Chicago at 10 is laughable.

Agreed.

 

[Retire91]

DeKeyser not in the Wings' top 5 is nonsense. Complete nonsense.

I don't know that DeKeyser was ever really a "Wings" prospect, he signed strait into an NHL role.

 

[w e l o s t b o y s]

Canes aren't last!

 

[Hero]

Yes! Leaf's top 25!

 

[Moskau]

They actually used the Sabres top 5 that was eviscerated by the fans already and should have been changed. Lazy.

 

[DatsyukToZetterberg]

Don't agree with a lot of what you said but it is kind of funny that Calle Jarnkrok was thought of as the next Zetterberg, potential top 6 stud center and Wings' #1 prospect when a guy like Oscar Lindberg was never talked about or highly thought of yet...

Same age, same size, same position, ect...

Oscar Lindberg
12-13(SEL): 55 GP, 17 goals, 25 assists, 42 points
12-13(SEL, playoffs): 13 GP, 4 goals, 8 assists, 12 points
13-14(AHL): 12 GP, 2 goals, 6 assists, 8 points

Calle Jarnkrok
12-13(SEL): 53 GP, 13 goals, 29 assists, 42 points
12-13(SEL, playoffs): 4 GP, 0 goals, 0 assists, 0 points
12-13(AHL): 9 GP, 0 goals, 3 assists, 3 points
13-14(AHL): 12 GP, 3 goals, 3 assists, 6 points

Have a look at where each player ranked on their team in scoring and you'll see why Jarnkrok was more hyped.

As it always is when you enter the thread Romers we Wings fans have to remind you that Jarnkrok was compared to Zetterberg in style & not potential. Jarnkrok's potential has always been that of a #2C but he does have a chance to develop into a #1C.

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

I don't know that DeKeyser was ever really a "Wings" prospect, he signed strait into an NHL role.

Maybe, but he's included in their list.

 

[Teemu]

What Chicago has is depth; they've been able to stash their prospects in the juniors and AHL without having to rush them. Most teams don't have the luxury of waiting for their top picks to develop because they need results now if they have any thoughts of making the playoffs. Even excluding Saad, the Hawks have only one prospect in their top 12 that wasn't picked in the first two rounds, and that guy won a Hobey Baker.

For what its worth, I think that people may have gotten a little carried away with Teravainen's strong preseason, but they're still in the ballpark of #10.

 

[Wingsfan2965*]

DeKeyser not in the Wings' top 5 is nonsense. Complete nonsense.

I'm more surprised at Mantha being #1. Has the highest potential for sure but with Nyquist and Tatar already being pretty much sure things he shouldn't be above them.

 

[ChiTownCode]

Chicago at 10 is laughable.

...or is it depressing?

 

[ChiTownCode]

Chicago is way too high, imo. Move them to #16-20 and move the teams just behind them up by one.

I'm curious as to why you think the Blackhawks are too high?

 

[Wingsfan2965*]

Chicago and Detroit's farms are very similar. They don't have 4 or 5 blue chip prospects like the "Top" systems do, but their depth is nearly unmatched.

Although I'd consider Mantha/Mrazek/Teravainen pretty blue-chip. Maybe even Sproul.

 

[CanadienShark]

I'm curious as to why you think the Blackhawks are too high?

I just think that the teams a few places after have better prospects. Personally, I'd have them as #17. Still, that whole group from 10-20 is pretty close. I'd do a little re-arranging of the rest of the list, but it's generally alright. Perhaps it's the depth that got Chicago so high, but I value 4-5 higher end prospects more than 5-10 good prospects.

 

[ChiTownCode]

I just think that the teams a few places after have better prospects. Personally, I'd have them as #17. Still, that whole group from 10-20 is pretty close. I'd do a little re-arranging of the rest of the list, but it's generally alright.

Fair enough, I don't really mind either way. Prospects will do as Prospects will do considering they have the ability to make us look stupid or like a genius depending on what they do at the big level.

on a side note I think the Hawks will drop out of the top 15 at the deadline because I'm convinced they might try to move one of our two best prospects to get a second line center. Rumor was the Hawks were looking at Ott 3 days ago but Bowman wants more an impact player but it could all be baseless speculation.

 

[CanadienShark]

Fair enough, I don't really mind either way. Prospects will do as Prospects will do considering they have the ability to make us look stupid or like a genius depending on what they do at the big level.

on a side note I think the Hawks will drop out of the top 15 at the deadline because I'm convinced they might try to move one of our two best prospects to get a second line center. Rumor was the Hawks were looking at Ott 3 days ago but Bowman wants more an impact player but it could all be baseless speculation.

That's certainly possible. We can agree to disagree here, and I'm sure many others will disagree with me, but that won't change my opinion.

I think you guys could do better than Ott for a second line centre, but then again, I don't know if you really NEED a great 2nd line centre.

 

[ChiTownCode]

That's certainly possible. We can agree to disagree here, and I'm sure many others will disagree with me, but that won't change my opinion.

I think you guys could do better than Ott for a second line centre, but then again, I don't know if you really NEED a great 2nd line centre.

Yeah, agree to disagree. You shouldn't change your opinion for anyone.

Well I'm not really sure we need a 2nd line center period but I think Hawks fans just want one so everyone stops talking about it.

 

[Yatzhee]

Wow, for Buffalo.......
they are hands down #1 in prospects.
Not mentioned.....
Ullmark, goalie, top rate, check his amazing run.
Baptiste, Hurley, Compher, McNabb, McCabe, and the list goes on.

Buffalo's current prospect pool, as of this date, is the most productive across the board, hands down. A shame recognition is not being given where it's due.

 

[Siludin]

The Canucks add two 1st rounders to their group and only move up three spots against the 2012/2013 spring rankings. Right...